2014 NBA Off-Season; Paul George suffers a double-compund-fracture, likely out for season. Speedy re

[100027]

I don't think it's hate. I think people are tired of hearing how good the Bulls (with or without Rose) are and how good of a coach Thibodeau is when they can't get out of the first round in the Eastern Conference.

Bingo.

They're just overrated. It does remind me of the Cowboys of a couple years ago.

 

[mister friendly]

Nah it's not really a Baseball greatest type discussion

If you really look at, Jordan has the most complete resume

Wilt, Russell and Kareem have some legit claims but not like Jordan

 

[NickFolarin]

Penny Hardaway
Brandon Roy
Greg Oden
Grant Hill

Countless other young players who got hurt and never returned to form.

Not sure what's so unbelievable about a player getting hurt and not returning to form,

I would like to argue that Greg Oden never got into a form 

 

[MVP]

Penny Hardaway
Brandon Roy
Greg Oden
Grant Hill

Countless other young players who got hurt and never returned to form.

Not sure what's so unbelievable about a player getting hurt and not returning to form,

This. Age ain't got nothing to do with it if your body is brittle as hell.

 

[offset pow clow]

@JJ Watt

Yeah a 25 yr old can't recover and get back to form..ok if that's your beliefs cool I dun mind

That's beside the point... But quit kidding yourself bulls fans don't say nothing till you come in along with others day after day night after night reaching for laughs and attention on injury jokes..
So then things get said

Rose gonna lead us to a chip he's great?? Never been said nobody is jinxin that ****
Bulls fans stay quiet till the jokes start flying from the,attention seekers

All that's been said is the east is wide open and if he returns to form we have a great chance at winning the EAST

It's been going on months and months and it's tiring but I now understand why yall do it cuz it has alot to do with who ppl really are I won't get further into that cuz it's not my biz..

So go ahead proceed I understand..

Just last preseason bulls fans were posting some outlandish statements because "rose was officially back"

 

[100027]

I was going to say, I didn't grow up watching him play but Kareem seems to be left out of every discussion despite all he did. Seems like the most unfair to me.

 

[tomdiginson]

Pathetic. Laughing at someones injuries.

 

[100027]

Oden healthy was a force man.
Ask @CP1708 how good he was.

Pretty sure he thinks Andrew Luck is the greatest basketball player of all time.

 

[bonez7]

Penny Hardaway
Brandon Roy
Greg Oden
Grant Hill

Countless other young players who got hurt and never returned to form.

Not sure what's so unbelievable about a player getting hurt and not returning to form,

This. Age ain't got nothing to do with it if your body is brittle as hell.

But thing is nobody said ever he's coming back to be mvp is it possible? Possibly yes but noone even talks bout it cause that's dreams right now..

What has been said and all that's been said was if he can simply play half as good as he once did and remain on the floor then we have a very good chance of making it out the east...

That has been stated in a very humble manor many times just stay healthy and play decent and we have a chance of getting there..that is all

But you can't even say dudes name without the gremlins gettin water on them

Just last preseason bulls fans were posting some outlandish statements because "rose was officially back"

So now that he got injured again a year later let's make wheelchair jokes every day? Seems legit right?

 

[MVP]

Nah it's not really a Baseball greatest type discussion

If you really look at, Jordan has the most complete resume

Wilt, Russell and Kareem have some legit claims but not like Jordan

How? Kareem has 6 titles (tied with MJ), 6 league MVPs (league record), 19x All Star, 11x All defensive selection, 4x blocks leader, 2x scoring titles, all time leading scorer in league history.

 

[100027]

How? Kareem has 6 titles (tied with MJ), 6 league MVPs (league record), 19x All Star, 11x All defensive selection, 4x blocks leader, 2x scoring titles, all time leading scorer in league history.

Big men get no love.

 

[mister friendly]

Kareem was a great player but he got to piggyback off Magic basically what Lebron should be able to do

Russell was better than Rodman, he was a complete defensive stalwart

 

[offset pow clow]

How? Kareem has 6 titles (tied with MJ), 6 league MVPs (league record), 19x All Star, 11x All defensive selection, 4x blocks leader, 2x scoring titles, all time leading scorer in league history.

6 rings 6 finals mvps + dpoy as a wing player>>>>>> kareem

 

[tekthemaestro]

1. From a purely basketball standpoint... jordan is not the undisputed best. Not if you're going by achievements and victories. HOWEVER, when encompassing all of basketball...from the game, to attitude, to the culture as a whole... Jordan is the GOAT. Jordan is to the NBA, as Michael Jackson is to music. He may not have won the most (or in Jacksons case sold the most) but man he changed the game FOREVER and brought it to a GLOBAL stage. He made basketball a mainstay and the game has been modeled after HIM ever since. But it depends on which way you wanna look at it. Its kinda like a whos the best point guard debate, are you talking as in PURE point guard? or todays definition which is a scoring point guard?

2. Rose slander does need to stop. The way yall ride him...i hate to imagine what it woulda looked like when Tmac was continuously getting injured on here. You guys ride him SO hard that it seems as if you enjoy the fact that hes injured. Im not a bulls fan by far, but Rose being out hurts the game. I want to see him at his fullest potential so we can all see some exciting basketball. Its as simple as that. Hes fun to watch when hes healthy.

3. Tip toeing in my jawdins.

4. UnchartedDrake shouldn't be allowed to say US for any team. Him saying the spurs beat "us" bothers me. There is no us. you're a groupie...you dont have a team. You have a single player that you follow around and pretend to be a fan of that team. At least you embrace it tho. But please...dont say "us"

 

[mister friendly]

Nah it's not really a Baseball greatest type discussion

If you really look at, Jordan has the most complete resume

Wilt, Russell and Kareem have some legit claims but not like Jordan

How? Kareem has 6 titles (tied with MJ), 6 league MVPs (league record), 19x All Star, 11x All defensive selection, 4x blocks leader, 2x scoring titles, all time leading scorer in league history.

Do you really think Kareem is getting 6 titles without a young Magic?

Do really think if Jordan had played straight til he was 40 years old, he wouldn't have become the all time scoring leader?

 

[NickFolarin]

 
1. From a purely basketball standpoint... jordan is not the undisputed best. Not if you're going by achievements and victories. HOWEVER, when encompassing all of basketball...from the game, to attitude, to the culture as a whole... Jordan is the GOAT. Jordan is to the NBA, as Michael Jackson is to music. He may not have won the most (or in Jacksons case sold the most) but man he changed the game FOREVER and brought it to a GLOBAL stage. He made basketball a mainstay and the game has been modeled after HIM ever since. But it depends on which way you wanna look at it. Its kinda like a whos the best point guard debate, are you talking as in PURE point guard? or todays definition which is a scoring point guard?

2. Rose slander does need to stop. The way yall ride him...i hate to imagine what it woulda looked like when Tmac was continuously getting injured on here. You guys ride him SO hard that it seems as if you enjoy the fact that hes injured. Im not a bulls fan by far, but Rose being out hurts the game. I want to see him at his fullest potential so we can all see some exciting basketball. Its as simple as that. Hes fun to watch when hes healthy.

3. Tip toeing in my jawdins.

4. UnchartedDrake shouldn't be allowed to say US for any team. Him saying the spurs beat "us" bothers me. There is no us. you're a groupie...you dont have a team. You have a single player that you follow around and pretend to be a fan of that team. At least you embrace it tho. But please...dont say "us"

You sir.... Nailed it on the head

 

[bonez7]

I've been humble... Cold or ar or any other bulls fan i haven't seen get outta line
Really maybe one guy here n there sayin hell come back and put in work

But very little has been said really I rather have em tread real slow and gradually get back into the swing of things... Yall the main ones bring dude up with the Bait jokes which leads to rose getting discussed..
It ain't a big deal but I ain't never seen so much day after day not for Kobe russ no1 reason being yall are baiting for a response

 

[do work son]

4. UnchartedDrake shouldn't be allowed to say US for any team. Him saying the spurs beat "us" bothers me. There is no us. you're a groupie...you dont have a team. You have a single player that you follow around and pretend to be a fan of that team. At least you embrace it tho. But please...dont say "us"

Or slander other people's teams when you jump from team to team. You have no team

 

[MVP]

Do you really think Kareem is getting 6 titles without a young Magic?

Do really think if Jordan had played straight til he was 40 years old, he wouldn't have become the all time scoring leader?

You really think Jordan is getting any titles without a young Pippen and Phil Jackson? Kareem did win one without Magic, can't say the same for MJ without Pip.

Well considering he had some gambling debts that caused him to leave and play baseball, who knows if he could have played that long and not broke down? All conjecture man.

 

[senatorjeffsmith]

I was going to say, I didn't grow up watching him play but Kareem seems to be left out of every discussion despite all he did. Seems like the most unfair to me.

I think it's because Kareem tends to rub people the wrong way. He seems to be the lone wolf type. I've heard he's wanted to be a head coach for the longest time. If he was coaching he'd be on everyone's mind.

1. From a purely basketball standpoint... jordan is not the undisputed best. Not if you're going by achievements and victories. HOWEVER, when encompassing all of basketball...from the game, to attitude, to the culture as a whole... Jordan is the GOAT. Jordan is to the NBA, as Michael Jackson is to music. He may not have won the most (or in Jacksons case sold the most) but man he changed the game FOREVER and brought it to a GLOBAL stage. He made basketball a mainstay and the game has been modeled after HIM ever since. But it depends on which way you wanna look at it. Its kinda like a whos the best point guard debate, are you talking as in PURE point guard? or todays definition which is a scoring point guard?

Some excellent points although I'd substitute The Beatles for Michael Jackson in your analogy. They changed music much more than Jackson ever did, but I digress...

 

[offset pow clow]

1. From a purely basketball standpoint... jordan is not the undisputed best. Not if you're going by achievements and victories. HOWEVER, when encompassing all of basketball...from the game, to attitude, to the culture as a whole... Jordan is the GOAT. Jordan is to the NBA, as Michael Jackson is to music. He may not have won the most (or in Jacksons case sold the most) but man he changed the game FOREVER and brought it to a GLOBAL stage. He made basketball a mainstay and the game has been modeled after HIM ever since. But it depends on which way you wanna look at it. Its kinda like a whos the best point guard debate, are you talking as in PURE point guard? or todays definition which is a scoring point guard?

Pure pg vs scoring pg is a terrible analogy when you're comparing greats by achievements but i agree with you

 

[bonez7]

1. From a purely basketball standpoint... jordan is not the undisputed best. Not if you're going by achievements and victories. HOWEVER, when encompassing all of basketball...from the game, to attitude, to the culture as a whole... Jordan is the GOAT. Jordan is to the NBA, as Michael Jackson is to music. He may not have won the most (or in Jacksons case sold the most) but man he changed the game FOREVER and brought it to a GLOBAL stage. He made basketball a mainstay and the game has been modeled after HIM ever since. But it depends on which way you wanna look at it. Its kinda like a whos the best point guard debate, are you talking as in PURE point guard? or todays definition which is a scoring point guard?

2. Rose slander does need to stop. The way yall ride him...i hate to imagine what it woulda looked like when Tmac was continuously getting injured on here. You guys ride him SO hard that it seems as if you enjoy the fact that hes injured. Im not a bulls fan by far, but Rose being out hurts the game. I want to see him at his fullest potential so we can all see some exciting basketball. Its as simple as that. Hes fun to watch when hes healthy.

3. Tip toeing in my jawdins.

4. UnchartedDrake shouldn't be allowed to say US for any team. Him saying the spurs beat "us" bothers me. There is no us. you're a groupie...you dont have a team. You have a single player that you follow around and pretend to be a fan of that team. At least you embrace it tho. But please...dont say "us"

Damn very well said...

Paging @UnchartedDrake..

 

[offset pow clow]

You really think Jordan is getting any titles without a young Pippen and Phil Jackson? Kareem did win one without Magic, can't say the same for MJ without Pip.

Well considering he had some gambling debts that caused him to leave and play baseball, who knows if he could have played that long and not broke down? All conjecture man.

Does oscar robertson ring a bell?

 

[tekthemaestro]

Pure pg vs scoring pg is a terrible analogy when you're comparing greats by achievements but i agree with you

im using it as an example to reference how the "jordan being goat debate" has two viewpoints..

jordans 2: goat from a strictly gameplay sense? goat from a basketball as a whole sense?

point guards 2: goat from a pure pg position (assists, IQ, playmaking skills) or todays definition, a scoring pg

 

[mister friendly]

Magic is a top 10 greatest player way better than Pippen

Magic was eventually the alpha on those teams. Pippen was never close to being the alpha went Jordan was there

Phil Jackson is a great coach but let's not act Pat Riley isn't on the same par