2013 College Football Thread (Realer than Real Deal Holyfield -->S/O Craftsy)

[Trey Bantz]

Question a friend posed to me today (that I don't necessarily agree with but figured I'd bring here):

"What makes the SEC the best conference in football?  It used to be all about how big and fast their players are and how awesome their defenses are.  Well, they don't have faster players anymore (oregon, ohio state, baylor, clemson) and they're not necessarily any bigger than a Wisconsin or K State or Stanford, and across the board in the SEC it's looking like 'what defense?'

So, really, why are they considered the undisputed best?"

Because they are the deepest conference from top to bottom. Doesn't mean there aren't teams in other conferences that can't beat their best teams though. I could easily see Oregon or Clemson beating whoever wins the SEC this year.

 

[elatedglasstop]

That's a dumb question and statement...when the majority of the sec top teams defenses got swoop up in the NFL draft...true freshmen starting all over the field ..and when you have guys like Murray, AJ, Manziel, Mett, and Shaw, you're gonna get torched if you're fresh out of high school as a defensive player ..it's that's simple

 

[a55a5in11]

Why does AJ always get talked about with the top QB's? I have never seen him do anything impressive

 

[elatedglasstop]

Why does AJ always get talked about with the top QB's? I have never seen him do anything impressive

Besides win ? Come through in the clutch ? Dude has had big games...it's not flashy..but he's legit. I hate Alabama...but AJ is good..he gets it done.

 

[champcruthik]

Game manager a misnomer for AJ.

 

[03silverbullet]

Also, who's taking ISU tonight vs. UT?

Texas is down, but we're pretty bad. I wouldn't mind putting the final nail in Mack Brown's coffin.

me either.

 

[a55a5in11]

Why does AJ always get talked about with the top QB's? I have never seen him do anything impressive

Besides win ? Come through in the clutch ? Dude has had big games...it's not flashy..but he's legit. I hate Alabama...but AJ is good..he gets it done.

you don't think having a legit running game and a top defense helps? dude rarely throws. Dude is not a top college QB.
he averages 22 Attempts a game.

 

[jewbacca]

Besides win ?

Worst argument ever. That has way more to do with his team than him. It's a whole lot easier to look good when you're surrounded by so many professional caliber players.

Regardless, he gets the job done for his team and that's all that matters.

 

[ThaxbyChamblis]

How many attempts do you have to average to be a good QB? 20? 25? 30? 35?

 

[elatedglasstop]

you don't think having a legit running game and a top defense helps? dude rarely throws. Dude is not a top college QB.
he averages 22 Attempts a game.

He's proven he can make the big plays when needed...I give dude hell all the time, I don't think he's as good as those other QBs I mentioned, and yeah he do has a great running game...but he's made the plays when he needed to. He came through in the clutch against LSU last season, and Georgia..and he was getting murdered in those games against those Dlines..but he showed up in the end

 

[a55a5in11]

How many attempts do you have to average to be a good QB? 20? 25? 30? 35?

didn't say he wasn't good. but come on there is no way he is one of the top QB's in the nation

 

[a55a5in11]

you don't think having a legit running game and a top defense helps? dude rarely throws. Dude is not a top college QB.
he averages 22 Attempts a game.

He's proven he can make the big plays when needed...I give dude hell all the time, I don't think he's as good as those other QBs I mentioned, and yeah he do has a great running game...but he's made the plays when he needed to. He came through in the clutch against LSU last season, and Georgia..and he was getting murdered in those games against those Dlines..but he showed up in the end

but does that make him one of the top QB's in the Nation? do you think Bama could rely on him to throw it 30+ where the defense is playing the pass instead of the run?

 

[doitallpaul]

Mike Davis with the dirtiest/cheapest play I've seen in the past 5 years. Disgusting.

 

[jewbacca]

but does that make him one of the top QB's in the Nation? do you think Bama could rely on him to throw it 30+ where the defense is playing the pass instead of the run?

If you put AJ on an average team, he'd be an average player and you wouldn't know his name.

 

[fear the ibis]

 

[doitallpaul]

Posting from phone.

Worse than targeting.

Needs to be suspended.

 

[a55a5in11]

that's another level of dirty play

 

[doitallpaul]

Sucker punch of football

 

[doitallpaul]

Who do you all think are the best announcers for college football?

 

[10508 cardo jr ln]

 

Question a friend posed to me today (that I don't necessarily agree with but figured I'd bring here):

"What makes the SEC the best conference in football?  It used to be all about how big and fast their players are and how awesome their defenses are.  Well, they don't have faster players anymore (oregon, ohio state, baylor, clemson) and they're not necessarily any bigger than a Wisconsin or K State or Stanford, and across the board in the SEC it's looking like 'what defense?'

So, really, why are they considered the undisputed best?"

Because they are the deepest conference from top to bottom. Doesn't mean there aren't teams in other conferences that can't beat their best teams though. I could easily see Oregon or Clemson beating whoever wins the SEC this year.

No you can't.

SEC defenses seem less stellar than usual because of the reffing. Targeting rule is KILLING the game, period. Refs not calling any holding etc this year in conference..don't believe me just watch.

As far as AJ McCarron goes, dude is a glorified clipboard holder.

 

[asianplayer]

Jesus

 

[elatedglasstop]

but does that make him one of the top QB's in the Nation? do you think Bama could rely on him to throw it 30+ where the defense is playing the pass instead of the run?

I mean i don't think anyone is going to win anything if all you can do is pass...

 

[asianplayer]

Who do you all think are the best announcers for college football?

Not gonna say they are the best, but I like brent musburger and kirk herbstreit

 

[Johnny_Cakes]

Utah coming out strong on this second drive defensively.

 

[a55a5in11]

but does that make him one of the top QB's in the Nation? do you think Bama could rely on him to throw it 30+ where the defense is playing the pass instead of the run?

I mean i don't think anyone is going to win anything if all you can do is pass...

30 pass attempts isn't even close to only passing
Alabama averages 67 plays per game. that still gives you 30 to run and 7 for special teams