2011 College Football "The Real been hacked!!!!" .

[hankmoody]

Can someone explain the Cuba reference? I swear I'm smart.

 

[gunna get it]

Newbs, I hear Michigan wont have room for O'Brien wow

Pipkens is dope but still, who turns down potentially great DT esp when defense, of late, has been pourous

 

[weaponry expert]

Oh look it's LeBatard saying the same thing I did...

College scandals punish students, never the ‘adults’



UM recruit Jelani Hamilton discusses investigation
Manny Navarro interviews UM recruit Jelani Hamilton, a defensive lineman from St. Thomas Aquinas, about the UM scandal.
MIAMI HERALD STAFF
UM recruit Jelani Hamilton discusses investigation
Video clip of Nevin Shapiro / Courtesy of CBS4
UM recruit Randy 'Duke' Johnson comments on investigation
UM's Al Golden discusses NCAA investigation
Luther Campbell weighs in on UM scandal
Scandals Past and Present at UM

Photos
UM football practice | Tue., Aug. 16, 2011

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WEB VOTE
Who should be blamed most for the current scandal at UM?
The players involved
The UM compliance department
Ex-coaches Larry Coker and Randy Shannon
UM president Donna Shalala
Former AD Paul Dee
Nevin Shapiro

BY DAN LE BATARD

[email protected]

This is like watching a couple of mall cops trying to contain America’s drug war, so now it is the University of Miami’s turn (again) to be devoured by the scandal of the month. The system is broken, and the rules are not only antiquated and dumb but also mean next to nothing to so many of the athletes being asked to abide by them. And yet we somehow keep trying to police the anarchy instead of the government that keeps creating it.
I keep waiting for America to get bored with these collegiate scandals and stigmatized students, the way it did with baseball steroids, but the media machine somehow keeps feeding on these reruns, the multibillion-dollar NFL keeps getting a free and monopolized minor-league system, and Pete Carroll simply flees an unholy mess with more power and money while the blame and the shame go to the poor kids. Poor, literally.
Change the rules or system? Nah. Too hard. There’s too much profit and too little incentive. It is easier to just keep changing the names of the players and schools with this month’s stigma, especially when UM’s athletic director and basketball coach (the adults, the authority figures) can leave behind disasters for better jobs. But all of this feels as useless as trying to end America’s drug problem by arresting a migrant worker working for minimum wage in the marijuana field.
How many of these alleged scandals must we unearth, how many Boise States and Ohio States have to go down, how many times must we be reminded that morally upstanding and godawful Vanderbilt is the only clean program in America, before the weary sports fan and media starts treating the scandal of the month with the same yawning indifference Roger Clemens just took with him to mistrial?
This is Deja U. Last time it happened, noise engulfing the program in hysteria and doom, the details were slightly different. But the scandal felt and sounded exactly the same. A hip-hop star was paying players and putting bounties on the helmets of the Notre Dame stars, the bounty money funneled through an assistant coach (Randy Shannon) and unknowingly held in the safe hands of the team priest. A coach! A priest! It all looked and felt really, really bad. The media circled. Everyone asked how the administration couldn’t have known. Sports Illustrated, on its cover, called for the program to be eradicated. And you know what happened?
Nothing.
It was just noise. Once the proof came in and the investigations were concluded, there were no penalties. None. In fact, years later, ESPN would make a movie that felt like sports pornography, turning the hip-hop villain into a hero and the scandals into something that felt like a celebration. The movie got a monster rating. In retrospect, with time and perspective, the “scandal

 

[weaponry expert]

Oh look it's LeBatard saying the same thing I did...

College scandals punish students, never the ‘adults’



UM recruit Jelani Hamilton discusses investigation
Manny Navarro interviews UM recruit Jelani Hamilton, a defensive lineman from St. Thomas Aquinas, about the UM scandal.
MIAMI HERALD STAFF
UM recruit Jelani Hamilton discusses investigation
Video clip of Nevin Shapiro / Courtesy of CBS4
UM recruit Randy 'Duke' Johnson comments on investigation
UM's Al Golden discusses NCAA investigation
Luther Campbell weighs in on UM scandal
Scandals Past and Present at UM

Photos
UM football practice | Tue., Aug. 16, 2011

Related Content
Attorneys could go after Miami Hurricanes players who received gifts
Questions arise as UM reels from scandal
University of Miami scandal draws ire of fans, NCAA
Ex-UM coach Jimmy Johnson: Nevin Shapiro a 'scumbag'
Implicated UM players practice; school tries to reassure recruits
UM coach Al Golden urges players to be honest during investigation
Ex-UM players: Nevin Shapiro had ‘bravado’ about him
The smoke that you see at the University of Miami is a five-alarm blaze
Report: Miami Hurricanes players took gifts, money
Blog | Top recruit Duke Johnson says he's sticking with Canes
WEB VOTE
Who should be blamed most for the current scandal at UM?
The players involved
The UM compliance department
Ex-coaches Larry Coker and Randy Shannon
UM president Donna Shalala
Former AD Paul Dee
Nevin Shapiro

BY DAN LE BATARD

[email protected]

This is like watching a couple of mall cops trying to contain America’s drug war, so now it is the University of Miami’s turn (again) to be devoured by the scandal of the month. The system is broken, and the rules are not only antiquated and dumb but also mean next to nothing to so many of the athletes being asked to abide by them. And yet we somehow keep trying to police the anarchy instead of the government that keeps creating it.
I keep waiting for America to get bored with these collegiate scandals and stigmatized students, the way it did with baseball steroids, but the media machine somehow keeps feeding on these reruns, the multibillion-dollar NFL keeps getting a free and monopolized minor-league system, and Pete Carroll simply flees an unholy mess with more power and money while the blame and the shame go to the poor kids. Poor, literally.
Change the rules or system? Nah. Too hard. There’s too much profit and too little incentive. It is easier to just keep changing the names of the players and schools with this month’s stigma, especially when UM’s athletic director and basketball coach (the adults, the authority figures) can leave behind disasters for better jobs. But all of this feels as useless as trying to end America’s drug problem by arresting a migrant worker working for minimum wage in the marijuana field.
How many of these alleged scandals must we unearth, how many Boise States and Ohio States have to go down, how many times must we be reminded that morally upstanding and godawful Vanderbilt is the only clean program in America, before the weary sports fan and media starts treating the scandal of the month with the same yawning indifference Roger Clemens just took with him to mistrial?
This is Deja U. Last time it happened, noise engulfing the program in hysteria and doom, the details were slightly different. But the scandal felt and sounded exactly the same. A hip-hop star was paying players and putting bounties on the helmets of the Notre Dame stars, the bounty money funneled through an assistant coach (Randy Shannon) and unknowingly held in the safe hands of the team priest. A coach! A priest! It all looked and felt really, really bad. The media circled. Everyone asked how the administration couldn’t have known. Sports Illustrated, on its cover, called for the program to be eradicated. And you know what happened?
Nothing.
It was just noise. Once the proof came in and the investigations were concluded, there were no penalties. None. In fact, years later, ESPN would make a movie that felt like sports pornography, turning the hip-hop villain into a hero and the scandals into something that felt like a celebration. The movie got a monster rating. In retrospect, with time and perspective, the “scandal

 

[hankmoody]

Damn, it's like Lebatard went to the U and is a big promoter of all things Miami.

He's not saying any of the accusations are false and he said the system is broken, both the complete opposite of everything you've said.

 

[hankmoody]

Damn, it's like Lebatard went to the U and is a big promoter of all things Miami.

He's not saying any of the accusations are false and he said the system is broken, both the complete opposite of everything you've said.

 

[university of nike]

Originally Posted by HankMoody

He's not saying any of the accusations are false and he said the system is broken, both the complete opposite of everything you've said.

This.

 

[university of nike]

Originally Posted by HankMoody

He's not saying any of the accusations are false and he said the system is broken, both the complete opposite of everything you've said.

This.

 

[zs05wc]

Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT

Newbs, I hear Michigan wont have room for O'Brien wow

Pipkens is dope but still, who turns down potentially great DT esp when defense, of late, has been pourous

We also have Matt Godin in this class who plays DT. I agree with you, I would take OBrien but there's just not enough room.Just an article on scout about freshman who are looking good. Deathony Arnett was like number on the list. Said he'll play in the slot to start and has added some good weight.

 

[zs05wc]

Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT

Newbs, I hear Michigan wont have room for O'Brien wow

Pipkens is dope but still, who turns down potentially great DT esp when defense, of late, has been pourous

We also have Matt Godin in this class who plays DT. I agree with you, I would take OBrien but there's just not enough room.Just an article on scout about freshman who are looking good. Deathony Arnett was like number on the list. Said he'll play in the slot to start and has added some good weight.

 

[10508 cardo jr ln]

Jason Croom to UTk?

 

[10508 cardo jr ln]

Jason Croom to UTk?

 

[weaponry expert]

Originally Posted by HankMoody

Damn, it's like Lebatard went to the U and is a big promoter of all things Miami.

He's not saying any of the accusations are false and he said the system is broken, both the complete opposite of everything you've said.

Weaponry Expert wrote:

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The rules in place are what's flawed because they are unnecessary, and pointless. "The system is broken, and the rules are not only antiquated and dumb but also mean next to nothing to so many of the athletes being asked to abide by them. And yet we somehow keep trying to police the anarchy instead of the government that keeps creating it."
Que? 

 

[weaponry expert]

Originally Posted by HankMoody

Damn, it's like Lebatard went to the U and is a big promoter of all things Miami.

He's not saying any of the accusations are false and he said the system is broken, both the complete opposite of everything you've said.

Weaponry Expert wrote:

---

The rules in place are what's flawed because they are unnecessary, and pointless. "The system is broken, and the rules are not only antiquated and dumb but also mean next to nothing to so many of the athletes being asked to abide by them. And yet we somehow keep trying to police the anarchy instead of the government that keeps creating it."
Que? 

 

[jville819]

So what's all this doing to UM recruiting?

 

[jville819]

So what's all this doing to UM recruiting?

 

[kantoot]

^^^ definitely some are re-evaluating their options. Wondering if um will get the death penalty like smu did in the 80s

 

[kantoot]

^^^ definitely some are re-evaluating their options. Wondering if um will get the death penalty like smu did in the 80s

 

[cato312]

Originally Posted by Weaponry Expert

Originally Posted by HankMoody

Damn, it's like Lebatard went to the U and is a big promoter of all things Miami.

He's not saying any of the accusations are false and he said the system is broken, both the complete opposite of everything you've said.

Weaponry Expert wrote:

---

"The system is broken, and the rules are not only antiquated and dumb but also mean next to nothing to so many of the athletes being asked to abide by them. And yet we somehow keep trying to police the anarchy instead of the government that keeps creating it."
Que? 

You said the system wasn't flawed in one of your previous posts....which is opposite of the LeBatard quote you posted above.  That's all they're pointing out.

Weaponry Expert wrote:

---

The system isn't flawed. The rules in place are what's flawed because they are unnecessary, and pointless. Can't help you if you don't realize that.

 

[cato312]

Originally Posted by Weaponry Expert

Originally Posted by HankMoody

Damn, it's like Lebatard went to the U and is a big promoter of all things Miami.

He's not saying any of the accusations are false and he said the system is broken, both the complete opposite of everything you've said.

Weaponry Expert wrote:

---

"The system is broken, and the rules are not only antiquated and dumb but also mean next to nothing to so many of the athletes being asked to abide by them. And yet we somehow keep trying to police the anarchy instead of the government that keeps creating it."
Que? 

You said the system wasn't flawed in one of your previous posts....which is opposite of the LeBatard quote you posted above.  That's all they're pointing out.

Weaponry Expert wrote:

---

The system isn't flawed. The rules in place are what's flawed because they are unnecessary, and pointless. Can't help you if you don't realize that.

 

[gunna get it]

Originally Posted by 10508 Cardo Jr Ln

Jason Croom to UTk?

yes he'll make it official at 3 pm.

Deathony Arnett was like number on the list. Said he'll play in the slot to start and has added some good weight.
  he's added like 9 lbs already, still a string bean.

I dont know what to expect from him, Dooley and Chaney moved Rajion Neal (4.3 forty) to WR and he looks good on screens and hitches. Arnett still has to pass fellow Frosh Vincent Dallas who is explosive and an early enrollee.
I figured Arnett would at least  return punts wit DYoung being injured  but so far, Marlin Lane and Tom Smith have beat everyone out

 

[gunna get it]

Originally Posted by 10508 Cardo Jr Ln

Jason Croom to UTk?

yes he'll make it official at 3 pm.

Deathony Arnett was like number on the list. Said he'll play in the slot to start and has added some good weight.
  he's added like 9 lbs already, still a string bean.

I dont know what to expect from him, Dooley and Chaney moved Rajion Neal (4.3 forty) to WR and he looks good on screens and hitches. Arnett still has to pass fellow Frosh Vincent Dallas who is explosive and an early enrollee.
I figured Arnett would at least  return punts wit DYoung being injured  but so far, Marlin Lane and Tom Smith have beat everyone out

 

[ThaxbyChamblis]

Whoa, Raijon to WR? Is he nice like that? Y'all that deep @ RB?

 

[ThaxbyChamblis]

Whoa, Raijon to WR? Is he nice like that? Y'all that deep @ RB?

 

[Sam Darnold Heisman #8]

what a joke. he wasnt playing in the first 5 games anyways. dude got off easy.

ESPN: Terrelle Pryor OK for draft

Quote:

The NFL declared former Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor eligible for the supplemental draft Thursday but ruled that he will not be able to play in the first five games of the 2011 season after he signs a contract. The league announced Pryor was eligible in a memo sent to its 32 teams Thursday. The 2011 supplemental draft will take place Monday, Aug. 22. The draft was to have taken place on Aug. 17 before it was postponed. The NFL said that Pryor can play in preseason games after he is drafted and signs but he is not eligible to practice with his new team or play in a game until Week 6 of the season. Pryor will be allowed at his new team's training facility for meetings and to work with coaches during the time he is ineligible, however. "... Pryor made decisions that undermine the integrity of the eligibility rules for the NFL Draft. Those actions included failing to cooperate with the NCAA and hiring an agent in violation of NCAA rules, which resulted in Ohio State declaring him ineligible to continue playing college football. "Pryor then applied to enter the NFL after the regular draft. Pryor had accepted at the end of the 2010 college football season a suspension for the first five games of the 2011 season for violating NCAA rules. Pryor will be ineligible to practice prior to or play in the first five games of the NFL regular season after he signs." ... "The five games we happily agreed to, voluntarily," Rosenhaus said. "The alternative wasn't very attractive. We're grateful for the chance." ... David Cornwell, Pryor's attorney, said he and Pryor were happy with the NFL's decision but said the NCAA must be challenged on its "amateurism" rules. "Ultimately we are pleased that Terrelle will have the opportunity to fulfill his dream to dream to play in the NFL," Cornwell said. "Personally, I hope this causes everyone to pause and conclude that we must challenge the NCAA on its 'amateurism' rules. Terrelle is going to the NFL because the NCAA mandated that he feed their families, but he could not feed his own."