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2010 Official Boxing Thread: Soto/Antillon, 2010 Fight of the Year.
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both dudes should never get another major fight
hang it up shane before something bad happens to you
hang it up shane before something bad happens to you
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Man, God bless you if you bought that
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To make matters worse I had to mute the stream cause the dudes calling it didn't know what the %@@! they were talking about...
They actually had it a shut out for Mora up to the 9th round...
Nazim gotta talk to his fighter...he obviously doesn't have it anymore and his speech is really starting to slur...Btw: I had it 116-112 Mosley
To make matters worse I had to mute the stream cause the dudes calling it didn't know what the %@@! they were talking about...
They actually had it a shut out for Mora up to the 9th round...
Nazim gotta talk to his fighter...he obviously doesn't have it anymore and his speech is really starting to slur...Btw: I had it 116-112 Mosley
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Man, God bless you if you bought that
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To make matters worse I had to mute the stream cause the dudes calling it didn't know what the @!!! they were talking about...
They actually had it a shut out for Mora up to the 9th round...
Nazim gotta talk to his fighter...he obviously doesn't have it anymore and his speech is really starting to slur...Btw: I had it 116-112 Mosley
To make matters worse I had to mute the stream cause the dudes calling it didn't know what the @!!! they were talking about...
They actually had it a shut out for Mora up to the 9th round...
Nazim gotta talk to his fighter...he obviously doesn't have it anymore and his speech is really starting to slur...Btw: I had it 116-112 Mosley
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poor enzo maccarinelli, he never lived up to the hype. wonderfully barbaric tko
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Calm the %@@@ down first of all.
Secondly, Mora made Shane chase him the entire fight. When they were tangled up, which was pretty damn often, Mora landed a good chunk of shots. Neither boxer deserved to win, but Mora should've won.
I've seen way more boxing than you have, and just because we differ on opinions, you have no right to talk to me like I'm a 5 year old who doesnt watch boxing.
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BRUTAL KO.
Why did that ref let him continue?!
Slap myself for buying that +#*%$$#+ fight. It was such a hard fight to score because they both didn't wanna do anything. Berto would have beat him and added another name to his resume if he wasn't so damn greedy and spoiled by HBO.
Jay, I think Baldomir did faint a bit in the corner afterwards but I was reading Dan Rafael's tweets and he said he ran in to him after the fight and he was good and out having fun after the fight. Saw 3 dudes tonight who need to hang em up IMO.
Enzo, I remember dudes swearing to me that he would beat David Haye at 190 to unify a couple years ago
Press conference to announce Paul/Sergio rematch is on Thursday. About goddamn time.
LOS ANGELES -- A negotiating breakthrough between junior welterweight titlist Timothy Bradley Jr. and promoter Gary Shaw moved Bradley's proposed unification fight with Devon Alexander a step closer, Bradley's managers told ESPN.com on Saturday night.
Alexander, his manager/trainer, Kevin Cunningham, and promoter Don King have already come to terms for the Jan. 29 fight and King and Shaw already have an agreement with HBO, which plans to make the much-anticipated 140-pound showdown the centerpiece of its early 2011 schedule.
However, Bradley and his managers, Cameron Dunkin and Michael Miller, have not been able to come to terms with Shaw.
The issue has been Shaw's demand that Bradley agree to an extension of their promotional contract beyond its May 10 expiration as part of the deal to get the fight with Alexander, which Bradley and his team rejected.
Dunkin and Miller said Bradley wants to make the fight with Alexander and then test the free-agent waters once his deal is up.
However, the breakthrough came Friday, when the managers said Shaw offered Bradley a two-fight deal -- the Alexander fight plus an automatic rematch, win or lose -- and agreed to end his demand for a contract extension.
Alexander has already agreed to an automatic rematch clause on his side, according to Cunningham.
Dunkin and Miller said HBO, which would produce a 30-minute countdown show previewing the fight, has agreed to do the Alexander-Bradley rematch in addition to the first fight.
"HBO is willing to do both fights and so are we, as long as the rematch takes place by May," Miller said. "But we'd give them until June 4."
Bradley would make career-high paydays of $1.1 million for the January fight and $1.2 million for the rematch, regardless of the outcome of the first fight, the managers said.
Dunkin and Miller said they met Saturday night with Bradley to deliver the offer to him at Shane Mosley's draw with Sergio Mora, whom they also manage.
"We talked to Tim and he's interested in the deal, but he wants to talk it over with is wife," Miller said. "He thinks the money is still short, but he wants the fight. He's supposed to get back to us Monday."
Miller said locking in the offer for the second fight was key because it assured Bradley another seven-figure purse and also gives Shaw at least a one-fight extension of his promotional deal. Once the deal is over, Miller said Shaw would have an exclusive 30-day window during which to offer Bradley a new contract. Miller said they would listen to Shaw's offer and when the 30 days are up, listen to other offers before deciding where Bradley would sign.
"I won't tell my fighter to sign a long-term agreement before he listens to other offers," Dunkin said. "But this is going to be Timmy's call on what he wants to do. He'll tell us what he wants to do and we'll go from there."
Jay, I think Baldomir did faint a bit in the corner afterwards but I was reading Dan Rafael's tweets and he said he ran in to him after the fight and he was good and out having fun after the fight. Saw 3 dudes tonight who need to hang em up IMO.
Enzo, I remember dudes swearing to me that he would beat David Haye at 190 to unify a couple years ago
Press conference to announce Paul/Sergio rematch is on Thursday. About goddamn time.
LOS ANGELES -- A negotiating breakthrough between junior welterweight titlist Timothy Bradley Jr. and promoter Gary Shaw moved Bradley's proposed unification fight with Devon Alexander a step closer, Bradley's managers told ESPN.com on Saturday night.
Alexander, his manager/trainer, Kevin Cunningham, and promoter Don King have already come to terms for the Jan. 29 fight and King and Shaw already have an agreement with HBO, which plans to make the much-anticipated 140-pound showdown the centerpiece of its early 2011 schedule.
However, Bradley and his managers, Cameron Dunkin and Michael Miller, have not been able to come to terms with Shaw.
The issue has been Shaw's demand that Bradley agree to an extension of their promotional contract beyond its May 10 expiration as part of the deal to get the fight with Alexander, which Bradley and his team rejected.
Dunkin and Miller said Bradley wants to make the fight with Alexander and then test the free-agent waters once his deal is up.
However, the breakthrough came Friday, when the managers said Shaw offered Bradley a two-fight deal -- the Alexander fight plus an automatic rematch, win or lose -- and agreed to end his demand for a contract extension.
Alexander has already agreed to an automatic rematch clause on his side, according to Cunningham.
Dunkin and Miller said HBO, which would produce a 30-minute countdown show previewing the fight, has agreed to do the Alexander-Bradley rematch in addition to the first fight.
"HBO is willing to do both fights and so are we, as long as the rematch takes place by May," Miller said. "But we'd give them until June 4."
Bradley would make career-high paydays of $1.1 million for the January fight and $1.2 million for the rematch, regardless of the outcome of the first fight, the managers said.
Dunkin and Miller said they met Saturday night with Bradley to deliver the offer to him at Shane Mosley's draw with Sergio Mora, whom they also manage.
"We talked to Tim and he's interested in the deal, but he wants to talk it over with is wife," Miller said. "He thinks the money is still short, but he wants the fight. He's supposed to get back to us Monday."
Miller said locking in the offer for the second fight was key because it assured Bradley another seven-figure purse and also gives Shaw at least a one-fight extension of his promotional deal. Once the deal is over, Miller said Shaw would have an exclusive 30-day window during which to offer Bradley a new contract. Miller said they would listen to Shaw's offer and when the 30 days are up, listen to other offers before deciding where Bradley would sign.
"I won't tell my fighter to sign a long-term agreement before he listens to other offers," Dunkin said. "But this is going to be Timmy's call on what he wants to do. He'll tell us what he wants to do and we'll go from there."
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I really doubt that youve seen more boxing than I have, so dont be ignorant. And I apologize if I hurt your feelings. I know you're not 5 years old who doesnt watch boxing, but apparently you missed this one. Check the punches landed and Percentages. Its night and day bro.
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Cmon Bobby!
Ive bought some bad ppvs in my lifetime but this one NUH UHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
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and in this day and age when you can find a link online EASY that makes it even worse
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problem with the links tho is when u have pple over to watch the fight. I totally get that, but damn who wanted to come over and watch Mosley vs Mora? LOL
The %%%%*! up thing is, before I called Time Warner and ordered I was seriously contemplating just getting my usual stream and letting these #$*%%% watch it on the computer
But it's good to see everyone and they all chip in for the PPV, food and beer so not all bad.
Anyway, the kid who was supposed to fight Pavlik pulled out so they are on the move to find him a new opponent.
Anyway, the kid who was supposed to fight Pavlik pulled out so they are on the move to find him a new opponent.
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GUNNA GET IT wrote:you purchased that PPV?
Cmon Bobby!
Ive bought some bad ppvs in my lifetime but this one NUH UHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Im guilty of purchasing this also..Hey, I was bored!. lol
And we FINALLY find out why Paul took sooooooooooooo goddamn long to sign the deal:
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By the way the Martinez-Williams story is up.Middleweight champ Sergio Martinez and Paul Williams will meet in a rematch of one of 2009's most exciting fights on Nov. 20 at Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City, N.J., their promoters told ESPN.com on Monday.
The rematch, one of the most significant fights of the year, will be televised on HBO's "World Championship Boxing." A news conference to formally announce the bout is scheduled for Thursday in New York, months after the on-and-off negotiations began.
"It's nice to get it completed," Dan Goossen, Williams' promoter, said. "It's not a matter of whose fault it is [that the fight took so long to make], it's a matter that you have two of the most feared fighters in the world facing each other. It doesn't just get made overnight. There's a lot more to it. That's what took time."
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Ed Mulholland/FightWireImages.comPaul Williams, left, and Sergio Martinez will meet in a rematch of their welterweight bout in Atlantic City, N.J. on Dec. 5, 2009.
Said Lou DiBella, Martinez's promoter, "Martinez is not afraid of anybody and we did the deal that HBO wanted us to do. My take on the fight it's the best f------ fight the rest of the year. Period. It's the best fight for fight fans and they don't have [to] fork over $60 to watch it on pay-per-view."
Although their first fight was contracted at the middleweight limit of 160 pounds, the rematch, which will be for Martinez's world title, is contracted at a catch weight of 157 pounds, which is what Williams weighed for the first fight; Martinez came in at 159.
"It's at 157 because we didn't have a choice," DiBella said. "Williams wanted the catch weight. There was an issue on the weight and we gave on the weight."
The fight will take place in the Boardwalk Hall main arena, which will be configured for about 7,000.
When they met for the first time on Dec. 5 in the smaller arena upstairs at Boardwalk Hall, both fighters were knocked down in the first round of what turned out to be a rousing, slugfest and one of the most action-packed fights of the year. Williams won a heavily disputed majority decision in the nontitle bout.
The fight had taken place on short notice when Kelly Pavlik, then the middleweight champ, withdrew from a scheduled defense against Williams (39-1, 27 KOs) and was replaced by Martinez (45-2-2, 24 KOs).
In his first fight after the loss to Williams, Martinez outpointed Pavlik to win the middleweight title in April at Boardwalk Hall.
"The fight can't miss," DiBella said. "You saw the first fight but I thought my guy won the first fight and I think he'll win this one easier. I don't think you'll ever fight Paul Williams and have an easy fight, but I think this time he will win more clearly."
Martinez, a native of Argentina living in California, will be making his first title defense. Williams has also fought once since their initial meeting, winning a four-round technical decision against Kermit Cintron in a May junior middleweight bout.
One of the reasons it took so long to finalize Martinez-Williams II was because the Williams camp was not eager for the fight. Goossen and adviser Al Haymon hoped to line up a big fight for Williams at welterweight, where he used to hold a title, against an opponent such as Manny Pacquiao or Shane Mosley.
When that did not materialize, they put off making the Martinez rematch for as long as they could until they had run out of other lucrative options.
When HBO and DiBella ran out of patience waiting for the Williams side to accept the fight in mid-August, DiBella cut off talks and offered the fight -- with HBO's blessing -- to junior middleweight contender Alfredo "Perro" Angulo, a network staple in recent years. However, when Angulo turned down $750,000, a career-high purse by more than double, plus other perks, DiBella and HBO made another run at Williams and HBO worked closely with Haymon to get it done. The Williams' camp reluctance to finalize the deal forced HBO to move the fight from the intended date of Oct. 2 to Nov. 20, leaving the network with no fights in October.
DiBella said he was ready to make a deal months ago and he's been upset that Martinez was treated as a "second-class citizen" by HBO while Williams, because of his ties to Haymon, received preferential treatment.
"Sergio has just wanted to get back in the ring and wants to be treated like the middleweight champion," DiBella said. "He knows what this fight means. He knows it's the last time he will be bullied by anybody in a business sense. That won't happen again if he wins. If he can beat Paul Williams after what he did to Pavlik and the damage he and Williams did to each other in the first fight, people should give him his props and he should be considered one of the best pound-for-pound fighters in the world below Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather. Sergio can establish himself at that level if he can perform in this fight. This is the prime of his career. This fight is everything to him."
Now that the fight is made, the difficulties were brushed aside by Goossen.
"Paul is very excited about the fight, so is [trainer] George [Peterson]," Goossen said. "It's the type of fight boxing needs and wants and one that we're looking to deliver. When everything is said and done, this is the fight everyone wants. But we never made any bones about the fact that we were looking for a welterweight fight. It wasn't that we didn't want a Sergio Martinez fight. We were hoping for the big fight at 147 pounds. We didn't get it and therefore we went for the next biggest fight, and that was obviously against Sergio.
"The great thing about is it Paul will have more than three weeks to train for Martinez, which is what happened last time when Pavlik pulled out and we had to change opponents and train for a southpaw." The fight is for the title but at a catch weight of 157 at Williams' insistence.
danrafaelespn
By the way the Martinez-Williams story is up.Middleweight champ Sergio Martinez and Paul Williams will meet in a rematch of one of 2009's most exciting fights on Nov. 20 at Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City, N.J., their promoters told ESPN.com on Monday.
The rematch, one of the most significant fights of the year, will be televised on HBO's "World Championship Boxing." A news conference to formally announce the bout is scheduled for Thursday in New York, months after the on-and-off negotiations began.
"It's nice to get it completed," Dan Goossen, Williams' promoter, said. "It's not a matter of whose fault it is [that the fight took so long to make], it's a matter that you have two of the most feared fighters in the world facing each other. It doesn't just get made overnight. There's a lot more to it. That's what took time."
[+] EnlargeMartinez/Williams
Ed Mulholland/FightWireImages.comPaul Williams, left, and Sergio Martinez will meet in a rematch of their welterweight bout in Atlantic City, N.J. on Dec. 5, 2009.
Said Lou DiBella, Martinez's promoter, "Martinez is not afraid of anybody and we did the deal that HBO wanted us to do. My take on the fight it's the best f------ fight the rest of the year. Period. It's the best fight for fight fans and they don't have [to] fork over $60 to watch it on pay-per-view."
Although their first fight was contracted at the middleweight limit of 160 pounds, the rematch, which will be for Martinez's world title, is contracted at a catch weight of 157 pounds, which is what Williams weighed for the first fight; Martinez came in at 159.
"It's at 157 because we didn't have a choice," DiBella said. "Williams wanted the catch weight. There was an issue on the weight and we gave on the weight."
The fight will take place in the Boardwalk Hall main arena, which will be configured for about 7,000.
When they met for the first time on Dec. 5 in the smaller arena upstairs at Boardwalk Hall, both fighters were knocked down in the first round of what turned out to be a rousing, slugfest and one of the most action-packed fights of the year. Williams won a heavily disputed majority decision in the nontitle bout.
The fight had taken place on short notice when Kelly Pavlik, then the middleweight champ, withdrew from a scheduled defense against Williams (39-1, 27 KOs) and was replaced by Martinez (45-2-2, 24 KOs).
In his first fight after the loss to Williams, Martinez outpointed Pavlik to win the middleweight title in April at Boardwalk Hall.
"The fight can't miss," DiBella said. "You saw the first fight but I thought my guy won the first fight and I think he'll win this one easier. I don't think you'll ever fight Paul Williams and have an easy fight, but I think this time he will win more clearly."
Martinez, a native of Argentina living in California, will be making his first title defense. Williams has also fought once since their initial meeting, winning a four-round technical decision against Kermit Cintron in a May junior middleweight bout.
One of the reasons it took so long to finalize Martinez-Williams II was because the Williams camp was not eager for the fight. Goossen and adviser Al Haymon hoped to line up a big fight for Williams at welterweight, where he used to hold a title, against an opponent such as Manny Pacquiao or Shane Mosley.
When that did not materialize, they put off making the Martinez rematch for as long as they could until they had run out of other lucrative options.
When HBO and DiBella ran out of patience waiting for the Williams side to accept the fight in mid-August, DiBella cut off talks and offered the fight -- with HBO's blessing -- to junior middleweight contender Alfredo "Perro" Angulo, a network staple in recent years. However, when Angulo turned down $750,000, a career-high purse by more than double, plus other perks, DiBella and HBO made another run at Williams and HBO worked closely with Haymon to get it done. The Williams' camp reluctance to finalize the deal forced HBO to move the fight from the intended date of Oct. 2 to Nov. 20, leaving the network with no fights in October.
DiBella said he was ready to make a deal months ago and he's been upset that Martinez was treated as a "second-class citizen" by HBO while Williams, because of his ties to Haymon, received preferential treatment.
"Sergio has just wanted to get back in the ring and wants to be treated like the middleweight champion," DiBella said. "He knows what this fight means. He knows it's the last time he will be bullied by anybody in a business sense. That won't happen again if he wins. If he can beat Paul Williams after what he did to Pavlik and the damage he and Williams did to each other in the first fight, people should give him his props and he should be considered one of the best pound-for-pound fighters in the world below Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather. Sergio can establish himself at that level if he can perform in this fight. This is the prime of his career. This fight is everything to him."
Now that the fight is made, the difficulties were brushed aside by Goossen.
"Paul is very excited about the fight, so is [trainer] George [Peterson]," Goossen said. "It's the type of fight boxing needs and wants and one that we're looking to deliver. When everything is said and done, this is the fight everyone wants. But we never made any bones about the fact that we were looking for a welterweight fight. It wasn't that we didn't want a Sergio Martinez fight. We were hoping for the big fight at 147 pounds. We didn't get it and therefore we went for the next biggest fight, and that was obviously against Sergio.
"The great thing about is it Paul will have more than three weeks to train for Martinez, which is what happened last time when Pavlik pulled out and we had to change opponents and train for a southpaw." The fight is for the title but at a catch weight of 157 at Williams' insistence.
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so dude is getting props for knocking out old *## Baldomir?? why
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Eh, I highly doubt that.
Gabriel Penagaricano, the legal advisor to WBA junior middleweight champion Miguel Cotto, has shed some light on the various rumors connected with the Puerto Rican star's next ring appearance. Penagaricano told Carlos Gonzalez that Cotto had two offers on the table for a possible December 4 doubleheader. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. was going to fight in the co-feature with Pawel Wolak.
Cotto was offered the opportunity to face either Kermit Cintron or Vanes Martirosyan. After considering both fights, Cotto felt there wasn't enough motivation to accept either opponent, so instead he made a decision to sit out until early 2011 when a bigger fight becomes available.
The original plan had Cotto fighting Chavez Jr. on the December 4 date. Top Rank felt the contest was being staged too close to the Pacquiao-Margarito pay-per-view and pushed it back until the spring of next year. When Chavez Jr. was withdrawn as a possible opponent, Cotto felt Cintron and Vanes were not suitable replacements and turned both of those fights down.
Penagaricano denied widespread reports that Cotto's decision was based on his recent right shoulder surgery which took place in August.
"With the departure of Julio Cesar Chavez Jr., Miguel knew that the other potential candidates were not on the same scale," said Penagaricano. "They did not meet Miguel's expectations and he understood that it was best to take the rest of the year off and then return at some point during the first couple of months of 2011. Michael would prefer to wait for an attractive fight. Unless there is a super-attractive fight, which we don't foresee at this time, then we don't see Miguel fighting until 2011."
Reports in Mexico suggest that Top Rank will now put together a big Latin Fury pay-per-view on the same December date. Chavez Jr. will still likely face Pawel Wolak, but Alfonso Gomez awaits if a deal with Wolak can't be finalized. Vanes Martirosyan will appear on the card and Filipino Nonito Donaire will be involved in a bantamweight contest, possibly against former champion Wladimir Sidorenko.
HYPED for this fight. Even though Marcos still looks a bit out of shape.
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Word on the street is that the most likely replacement for Kessler will be Glen Johnson dropping down to super middle weight. This tournament is turning into a disaster
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Bute has a fight w/Jesse Brinkley coming up in October.
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Sako Bika and Lucian Bute aren't getting any looks for the Super 6?
