[::2009 Champion LAKERS OFF-SEASON THREAD Vol. Boring Non-News Days Causing In-Thread Tension::]

[grimey]

LO >

 

[uclamike]

so you trade for boozer and tell him to come off the bench? or you tell bynum who you have told you are the future to come off the bench? both

and trade for prince? then what do you do with Artest because prince is better then artest and fits that offense 100 times better then artest does

and No to B.easy? plz you cant teach what mike has, his skill set and the talent he has you cant teach. kobe and jackson on his +$% should keep his head in thegame

 

[tupac003]

TH0MAS CR0WN wrote:

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tupac003 wrote:

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I want no part of B.Easy or Pot head.

I want Lamar back.

If there is no way to get him back there are only 2 players I would like to see a sign and trade for.

Boozer. Jazz want to deal him but I don't see how that could work.

Prince. I know the Pistons kinda threw this out there but I doubt this happens either.

To be honest....there was a point where I thought Lamar was gone. Then there was last week where I thought he was ours.

Now I really don't know. If Lamar is being honest about being here then something will work out.

If he wants to chase that extra mil then he leaves.

I don't see how ANY sign and trade scenario helps us.

We just have to hope and pray this works out.

I would definitely rather take both over Beas & Howard, I'd rather have Odom but I just don't like the idea of losing him for nothing

between Boozer & Prince, give me Prince for this team. Boozer & Pau play the same position, and I'd rather have Pau over him any day.

Prince for Odom I would actually be happy for if Odom really wants to leave. I have always wanted Prince on the Lakers but I highly doubt the Pistons deal him to us

but we should try sign&trading Odom for a starting pg to further solidify our line-up 1-5

Co-sign. I mean if there is NO POSSIBLE way to bring Lamar back you have to find some sort of sign and trade.

I don't know about a PG though. Not to down play what fisher has meant to us...but in the tri-angle all you need is a point guard that can shoot.

I think Brown/Ears can be our point guards if they work on their D.

 

[th0mas cr0wn]

out of the 3 rumored:

Prince
Booz
Beas
Howard

in order of who I'd rather have for this team,

Prince is the type of guy that will fit in on any team you throw him on

 

[enrique23]

the line to get the dvd autographed by derek fisher is

 

[jumpman jam]

Prince Will Be Like A Second Trev, Good Fit With Him IMO

 

[23mcpizzle23]

Originally Posted by JumpMan Jam

Prince Will Be Like A Second Trev, Good Fit With Him IMO

i agree and our team would be

defensively with him and ron we already know we have more than enough fire poweron offense....

 

[travman24]

Farmar & Walton were at a Walmart in Carson signin the Champ DVD. Anyone go?

 

[darthska]

Prince would definitely be my top choice from the guys recently mentioned in this thread.

But isn't he a 3? Since Artest is our starting 3, I'll have to check in with Lizaker to see how he would fit in with us having Ron at the 3, becauseI'm no GM.

 

[westcoastsfinest]

Originally Posted by tupac003

travman24 wrote:

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Man the Champion high is coming down now

first we lose Trev (but we get Artest

) buuut we might be losing LO

this sucks..

Anybody get the DVD yet?

17.99 at target. Best buy is 19.99 but I went to 3 in my area and all were sold out.

As far as Sean may goes if he is slim and healthy and we can get him cheap why not look at him? I doubt he is a replacement for LO but why not see what the kid can do?

LamarOwnsem wrote:

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Originally Posted by tupac003

LamarOwnsem wrote:

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Both sides are at fault, in my eyes. I'm sure Jerry Buss has an extra $1mil to give to Odom. He's acting like the money isn't there at all. On the other hand, what does Lamar need $10mil for that $9mil isn't enough?

Both sides?

I know your a Lamar fan but come on. We have gone from 7 to 9. And its not an extra mil its 2.


Lamar is asking for a $4mil paycut from last season. I know Buss has the money, so why not give it to him?

I know buss has the money? Come on!

If you threw money at every free agent just because they said they wanted it you wouldn't have the money much longer. That extra mil per season in salary will be another mil on top of that mil for how many ever seasons he is signed for.

You make it seem so easy. If it was that easy I think they would have already given him the money.

I don't understand why some of you don't get it by now. The cap is going to drop even further next season and the season after that we have to re-sign gasol. We can't just throw money around.

k0befomvp wrote:

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If Lamar doesn't accept the 9 million then he should just get the hell out of here. Dude is lucky he didn't get traded at some point during his Laker-career. Lamar is a talented player and the Lakers are nearly unstopable when he plays good, but the problem is he hardly does. It's a safe bet that he will never live up to his potential and is best as a third option on a team. It would be sad to see him go, but I don't think he is showing loyalty to the Lakers like the Lakers are showing him.

Co-sign 150%!!!!

man...i bought the s.i package with the 53 issues...the book...the ball and the dvd...i havent got squat yet

kobeformvp i agree with you too!!...if you aint with us then youre against us

 

[travman24]

Prince would be dope.. Another cali kid.. Compton stand up!

 

[tupac003]

Originally Posted by 23ska909red02

Prince would definitely be my top choice from the guys recently mentioned in this thread.

But isn't he a 3? Since Artest is our starting 3, I'll have to check in with Lizaker to see how he would fit in with us having Ron at the 3, because I'm no GM.

I think price would come off the bench like Lamar did.

But I I think we may be going a bit far. I think we need to wait until we know for sure before we hope for anything.

Lamar PLEASE don't be Ariza 2.0....

[h1]Ted Green: Lamar Odom's agent Jeff Schwartz needs to listen up[/h1]
10:44 AM, July 14, 2009

Last week, I wrote that it was time for the Lakers to step up and make Lamar Odom a reasonable, respectful offer.

Now that they have, apparently offering L.O. more than $9 million a year for at least three years, it's now time for Lamar's agent to wake up.

Yes, wake up, Jeff Schwartz. In Miami or Memphis, Lamar Odom is irrelevant, a face in the crowd, part of the passing parade.

With the Lakers, he's a rock star, an important championship piece and a player revered by the city. In other words, an athlete who absolutely matters.

So listen up, Mr. Schwartz, and jot this down on your 8-by-10 pad:

Something approaching, say, $28 million for three years is good money. Actually, it's great money for a guy who is important to the Lakers, true, but who is never going to be better than the third or even fourth option and who, additionally, is probably going to be asked to come off of the bench.
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What's more, the Lakers' offer would make Lamar the highest paid sixth man in the league. Wait, let me write that with an exclamation point. Highest paid sixth man in the league! Not even Manu Ginobili of the Spurs, a true all-star, makes more. Ginobili gets $8.67 million on a six-year deal he signed several seasons back.

More per year than Manu Ginobili? I'd say that's a VERY fair offer, Mr. Schwartz.

For a few more million that Lamar is never going to be able to spend in three lifetimes if he is smart and prudent, what are you going to do, Jeff Schwartz, exile him to Miami?

Do you realize how close that is to the Bermuda Triangle, where people have been known to disappear?

Your job, Mr. Schwartz, is to help expedite getting a good salary for Lamar, and that you appear to have accomplished. Job well done.

But don't get greedy and blow the deal. Don't make this a pointless and macho mano a mano negotiation, in which the sins of ego and vanity take over, pushing the Lakers to the point where an owner with a virtually impeccable track record, such as Jerry Buss, pulls it off the table.

This isn't serving the interests of Lamar Odom. This is attempting to increase the size of your commission check. This, Mr. Schwartz, would be abject greed and stupidity.

This applies to you, Mr. Schwartz and to every other agent out there: Take your sizable cut; congratulate your client on making the smart, thoughtful, bigger-picture decision; and be thankful you don't actually have to work for a living.

And Lamar, oh lovable Laker of the cool Sgt. Pepper jackets: Pull your head out of the sand and take control of what your agent is doing. Don't just sit home and tell the newspapers that money is a "touchy subject" Trust your agent, you hired him, but not implicitly. Make sure he isn't so stubborn and hardheaded that he writes you a one-way ticket out of town.

If there's one thing you should have learned by now, L.O., it's that the only ones you can really trust in any of this Laker business are Kobe Bryant and Pau Gasol in the fourth quarter.

-- Ted Green

Photo: Lamar Odom points to the crowd from the top of the team's celebration bus during the Lakers' championship parade on June 17. Credit: Richard Vogel / Associated Press

Green formerly covered the Lakers for the L.A. Times. He is currently senior sports producer for KTLA Prime News.


Nuff said.

 

[westcoastsfinest]

trevor and maybe odom are dumb for leaving...theyre basically turning their back on other chance on a ring...through economic times i wouldve thought Lamaralready shouldve swooped on our deal

 

[th0mas cr0wn]

& according to that article you posted tupac, I'd damn sure rather have Ginobili for that kinda money then Lamar(as much as I like him). that was agood comparison

Seriously if Lamar is playing hardball over an extra mil he can go, IMO he needs the Lakers more than the Lakers need him & the Lakers have been trying toshow Lamar how loyal they are to him, it doesn't look like Lamar is returning that loyalty

 

[Lizakers]

Stupid Lamar!!!!! Is $9 milliion not enough for a non-all-star, bench player?????


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[h1]Odom offer taken off the table[/h1]
By Ramona Shelburne on July 14, 2009 7:33 PM | Permalink | Comments (0) | ShareThis

Monday Lakers general manager Mitch Kupchak said that he wasn't sure the organization and Lamar Odom's representative were ``on the same page.''

Now it looks as if the Lakers offer to the free agent forward has been taken off the table, according to our Elliott Teaford, who is attending the Lakers summer league game in Las Vegas.

 

[th0mas cr0wn]

it was inevitable


you did this to yourself Lamar



RT @EricPincus: Doc Buss to LO,"To the left . . ."

We need a worthy replacement, thanks for everything Lamar but you messed up this Summer. good luck to you

 

[xsalvioutlawx]

Lamar will be nothing on another team, especially a crappy team where more pressure will be placed on him. If he doesn't want to sign for that much, lethim go, just like Ariza.

 

[franchise3]

Its more LO wanted that 4th year.

 

[darthska]

TH0MAS CR0WN:

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Seriously if Lamar is playing hardball over an extra mil he can go, IMO he needs the Lakers more than the Lakers need him & the Lakers have been trying to show Lamar how loyal they are to him, it doesn't look like Lamar is returning that loyalty

Lizaker4Lizife:

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By Ramona Shelburne on July 14, 2009 7:33 PM

Monday Lakers general manager Mitch Kupchak said that he wasn't sure the organization and Lamar Odom's representative were ``on the same page.''

Now it looks as if the Lakers offer to the free agent forward has been taken off the table, according to our Elliott Teaford, who is attending the Lakers summer league game in Las Vegas.

*waits for folks to come through with similar responses*

*waits for other folks to com through responding about hypocritical Laker fans are for saying 'Peace, then!' to a guy we were hoping to re-sign in thelast few weeks*

Look, like holden said quite a few pages back: it's called loving the one you're with. We want Odom, but we only want him for a reasonable offer. $9milis more than reasonable for a non-All Star bench player.

 

[Lizakers]

Adam Morrison averaging 21 ppg after 4 games in the Summer League

maybe he's the LO replacement

 

[thachosen123]

Sooooooo that's it? Dr. Buss has Officially wiped his hands clean of lamar?

Damn L.O $#+ is goin thru your head...........

once again here's another good player in a great position, letting his money hungry agent lead him downthe wrong path

 

[Lizakers]

^^ exactly.

I wonder if these players even know what's going on. It seems like their agents do everything and the players are out of the loop. Obviously the agents aregoing to push and push to get more money so that they're commission is bigger

Lamar needs to step up and take it into his own hands. I mean, damn, 9 mill is a lot of money for a bench player who averages 11 pts and wasn't 6th man ofthe year, was never an all-star.

 

[cruzair13]

Originally Posted by Lizaker4Lizife

Adam Morrison averaging 21 ppg after 4 games in the Summer League

maybe he's the LO replacement

i can see it now, adam morrison most improved player. i believe it. aha

 

[Truth]

LO

 

[misterp0315]

Damn, LO.

Clown.