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Does anybody know where I can find highlights of the Jones vs Lacy fight? Thanks
09 Boxing Thread:: 12/12 Diaz.vs.Malignaggi HBO/Bradley.vs.Peterson Showtime
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And it is. Cantroll with Kelly on this 1. He's starting to lose my respect. Got me all hype and did this bs again.
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Perhaps those rumors of him being a booze bag are true.
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Yea Man, He lookin suspect.
this is the 2nd fight in a row he's pulled out of...
this is the 2nd fight in a row he's pulled out of...
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Mosley vs. either Berto or Clottey are VERY interesting fights
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IMO Clottey Handles Shane and Shane will have problems with Berto's speed.
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Berto would have problems with Shane, Berto is too flat footed and Shane can punch and still has good hand speed , Clottey he can win IF he fights the wholefight and not take rds ouff
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Berto shouldnt even think about Shane right now. He's lucky he even got the decision against Collazo. He shoulda lost that fight. And Berto's speed isnot even that much greater than Shane's, if it even is at all. IMO. If Shane fights Berto. Shane by stoppage no later than 9 rounds. Shane vs Clottey
Thatl be a better fight.
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Fighters dont have to be faster than shane. Cotto damn sure aint. but there was enough speed vs his old age to give him problems.
Margarito has/had zero hand or foot speed. that fight was taylor made for Shane. and he took advantage.
Margarito has/had zero hand or foot speed. that fight was taylor made for Shane. and he took advantage.
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Berto still being babied....
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True but Berto is no Cotto.
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truth
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They installed alcohol hand rub dispensers in Kelly's house to try to help, but he just kept drinking the stuff....
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truth
Originally Posted by Cobbler
They installed alcohol hand rub dispensers in Kelly's house to try to help, but he just kept drinking the stuff....
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Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT
truth
Originally Posted by Cobbler
They installed alcohol hand rub dispensers in Kelly's house to try to help, but he just kept drinking the stuff....
what the ?
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so williams is going to move on and fight some else now?
Got tickets to the UCLA game the same Night as the Floyd VS JMM fight. think im pass on football
Got tickets to the UCLA game the same Night as the Floyd VS JMM fight. think im pass on football
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[h2]Commission amends head injury rule[/h2]
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The Nevada State Athletic Commission adopted two major rules changes at its meetings in Las Vegas on Wednesday that could have a significant impact onboxing in the fight capital of the United States.
In two 5-0 votes, the commission approved the use of instant replay for boxing and mixed martial arts bouts and also amended a rule that previously did notallow fighters in either sport to apply for a license in the state if they had previously suffered a cerebral hemorrhage.
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John Rivera/Icon SMIEdwin Valero, who suffered a head injury in a 2001 motorcycle accident, can now apply for a license to fight in Las Vegas.
Both new rules are expected to go into effect in September, said Keith Kizer, the executive director of the Nevada commission. He said both must be approvedby the Nevada's Legislative Counsel Bureau, which will make sure neither violates any state statutes.
"They'll look at them and they'll file them with the state librarian," Kizer said. "Bottom line is that within 30 days they should beon the books."
The Sept. 19 Floyd Mayweather-Juan Manuel Marquez card at the MGM Grand is the first significant boxing show in the state under which replay could beused.
"Mayweather-Marquez will either be the first under the new regulations or the last under the old regulations," Kizer said.
The use of instant replay was adopted on a limited basis and will be at the sole discretion of the referee. Kizer said it will only be used when an injuryforces a fight to be stopped.
"An eye poke, a cut, something along those lines," Kizer said. "The cut happens, the fighter cannot continue and the referee makes a callwhether it was caused by a punch or a head butt. If he feels the use of replay will help him be sure, he can review it. It's no different than the NFL. Ifthe replay is inconclusive, the initial call stands."
Replay will not be used, Kizer said, to determine such things as whether a knockdown is caused by a punch or was a slip.
"I like the accuracy it can provide," said Todd duBoef, the president of Las Vegas-based promoter Top Rank. "As long as the use of replaydoes not jeopardize the action of the contest, I think it will be a good thing and very healthy for the sport."
Featherweight contender Rocky Juarez, who challenges Chris John for his title on the Mayweather-Marquez undercard, also supports the use of replay.
"I believe it is a good thing," Juarez said. "A lot of times fights are stopped where there's a head butt and you don't know if itwas accidental or intentional. Replay clears that up."
Since 1972, Nevada rules prevented a fighter who had suffered a head injury, such as a subdural hematoma (bleeding on the brain), from applying for alicense, even if the injury was not related to fighting and there was no longer evidence of it in medical testing.
That rule is what prevented fighters such as heavyweight Joe Mesi and lightweight titlist Edwin Valero from asking Nevada for a license after injuries.
But with advances in medical technology, the commission revisited the rule and took its unanimous vote after a recommendation from Dr. Albert Capanna, aneurosurgeon and chairman of Nevada's medical advisory board, which also approved of the rule change.
It is significant for Valero, who suffered a head injury in a 2001 motorcycle accident. He turned pro in 2002 and fought without any issues but was denied alicense in New York when he failed a pre-fight MRI in 2004. New York placed him on the indefinite suspension list. Other states honored the ruling as suggestedthey do under the rules of the Association of Boxing Commissions.
Valero eventually continued his career in Japan and won a junior lightweight title. In March 2008, Valero was granted a license in Texas, which had himsubmit to a battery of tests before allowing him to fight there. In April, Valero fought in Austin, Texas, and knocked out Antonio Pitalua in the second roundto claim a lightweight title.
But Valero wants the bigger money fights that are usually associated with Las Vegas. His promoter, Top Rank, has designs on putting him in a significantbout on the Nov. 14 Miguel Cotto-Manny Pacquiao undercard.
Now, Valero, and any other fighter in a similar situation, can at least apply for a license. The commission will consider each fighter on a case-by-casebasis.
"A lot of things have changed since 1972 in terms of medical testing," Kizer said. "We have a better ability to scan and some scansdidn't even exist in 1972. The commission is not changing its view of these injuries, just changing so we can utilize modern medicine in making adetermination. Anyone with a hemorrhage history would have to go before the medical advisory board and probably get a ton of different tests and then thecommission would make its decision. Just because you can apply now doesn't mean it's going to be easier to get a license if you've had ahemorrhage."
Valero's MRI films were sent to the commission months ago in anticipation of the rule change. Kizer said Capanna was encouraged by the initial review ofthe films, but Valero will have to submit to extensive testing and a review by the medical advisory board and commission before he is granted a license.
"I think the change of the rule is the commission adapting to use information that is available," said duBoef, Valero's promoter. "Therehave been many medical experts that believe that there is not enough evidence to prohibit a fighter from participating in a contest if they have had a previouscerebral hemorrhage. We've seen a number of participants who have fought after a cerebral hemorrhage and had good careers. Now at least Nevada willconsider the application.
"We'll explore the process to get Valero a license in the state of Nevada," duBoef said. "We'll go through the inspections andbattery of tests in order to get him licensed. Nevada should be commended for getting up to date and modernizing the commission's rules."
Dan Rafael is ESPN.com's boxing writer.
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By Dan Rafael
ESPN.com
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The Nevada State Athletic Commission adopted two major rules changes at its meetings in Las Vegas on Wednesday that could have a significant impact onboxing in the fight capital of the United States.
In two 5-0 votes, the commission approved the use of instant replay for boxing and mixed martial arts bouts and also amended a rule that previously did notallow fighters in either sport to apply for a license in the state if they had previously suffered a cerebral hemorrhage.
[+] Enlarge
John Rivera/Icon SMIEdwin Valero, who suffered a head injury in a 2001 motorcycle accident, can now apply for a license to fight in Las Vegas.
Both new rules are expected to go into effect in September, said Keith Kizer, the executive director of the Nevada commission. He said both must be approvedby the Nevada's Legislative Counsel Bureau, which will make sure neither violates any state statutes.
"They'll look at them and they'll file them with the state librarian," Kizer said. "Bottom line is that within 30 days they should beon the books."
The Sept. 19 Floyd Mayweather-Juan Manuel Marquez card at the MGM Grand is the first significant boxing show in the state under which replay could beused.
"Mayweather-Marquez will either be the first under the new regulations or the last under the old regulations," Kizer said.
The use of instant replay was adopted on a limited basis and will be at the sole discretion of the referee. Kizer said it will only be used when an injuryforces a fight to be stopped.
"An eye poke, a cut, something along those lines," Kizer said. "The cut happens, the fighter cannot continue and the referee makes a callwhether it was caused by a punch or a head butt. If he feels the use of replay will help him be sure, he can review it. It's no different than the NFL. Ifthe replay is inconclusive, the initial call stands."
Replay will not be used, Kizer said, to determine such things as whether a knockdown is caused by a punch or was a slip.
"I like the accuracy it can provide," said Todd duBoef, the president of Las Vegas-based promoter Top Rank. "As long as the use of replaydoes not jeopardize the action of the contest, I think it will be a good thing and very healthy for the sport."
Featherweight contender Rocky Juarez, who challenges Chris John for his title on the Mayweather-Marquez undercard, also supports the use of replay.
"I believe it is a good thing," Juarez said. "A lot of times fights are stopped where there's a head butt and you don't know if itwas accidental or intentional. Replay clears that up."
Since 1972, Nevada rules prevented a fighter who had suffered a head injury, such as a subdural hematoma (bleeding on the brain), from applying for alicense, even if the injury was not related to fighting and there was no longer evidence of it in medical testing.
That rule is what prevented fighters such as heavyweight Joe Mesi and lightweight titlist Edwin Valero from asking Nevada for a license after injuries.
But with advances in medical technology, the commission revisited the rule and took its unanimous vote after a recommendation from Dr. Albert Capanna, aneurosurgeon and chairman of Nevada's medical advisory board, which also approved of the rule change.
It is significant for Valero, who suffered a head injury in a 2001 motorcycle accident. He turned pro in 2002 and fought without any issues but was denied alicense in New York when he failed a pre-fight MRI in 2004. New York placed him on the indefinite suspension list. Other states honored the ruling as suggestedthey do under the rules of the Association of Boxing Commissions.
Valero eventually continued his career in Japan and won a junior lightweight title. In March 2008, Valero was granted a license in Texas, which had himsubmit to a battery of tests before allowing him to fight there. In April, Valero fought in Austin, Texas, and knocked out Antonio Pitalua in the second roundto claim a lightweight title.
But Valero wants the bigger money fights that are usually associated with Las Vegas. His promoter, Top Rank, has designs on putting him in a significantbout on the Nov. 14 Miguel Cotto-Manny Pacquiao undercard.
Now, Valero, and any other fighter in a similar situation, can at least apply for a license. The commission will consider each fighter on a case-by-casebasis.
"A lot of things have changed since 1972 in terms of medical testing," Kizer said. "We have a better ability to scan and some scansdidn't even exist in 1972. The commission is not changing its view of these injuries, just changing so we can utilize modern medicine in making adetermination. Anyone with a hemorrhage history would have to go before the medical advisory board and probably get a ton of different tests and then thecommission would make its decision. Just because you can apply now doesn't mean it's going to be easier to get a license if you've had ahemorrhage."
Valero's MRI films were sent to the commission months ago in anticipation of the rule change. Kizer said Capanna was encouraged by the initial review ofthe films, but Valero will have to submit to extensive testing and a review by the medical advisory board and commission before he is granted a license.
"I think the change of the rule is the commission adapting to use information that is available," said duBoef, Valero's promoter. "Therehave been many medical experts that believe that there is not enough evidence to prohibit a fighter from participating in a contest if they have had a previouscerebral hemorrhage. We've seen a number of participants who have fought after a cerebral hemorrhage and had good careers. Now at least Nevada willconsider the application.
"We'll explore the process to get Valero a license in the state of Nevada," duBoef said. "We'll go through the inspections andbattery of tests in order to get him licensed. Nevada should be commended for getting up to date and modernizing the commission's rules."
Dan Rafael is ESPN.com's boxing writer.
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^^ Valero reminds me of Fonzie from Happy Days. lol
QUOTES FROM TODAY'S HBO BOXING AFTER DARK FINAL PRESS CONFERENCE
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Fri, 21 Aug 2009
Houston, TX -- Former Three-Time Lightweight World Champion Juan Diaz (Left) and former Junior Welterweight World Champion Paulie Malignaggi (Right) face off on August 20, 2009 in Houston, Texas at the final press conference for their August 22, 2009 bout at Toyota Center in Houston which will be televised live on HBO's Boxing After Dark.
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Bernard Hopkins, Former Two-Division World Champion and Golden Boy Promotions Partner
"If you think you're not going to see action unless you see the main event, you're doing yourself a disservice. When you come to the fight early (and see the undercard) you see the future of boxing."
Shane Mosley, Welterweight World Champion and Golden Boy Promotions Partner
"I'm happy to be here because it's going to be a great fight with two great fighters. Paulie, he's got charisma, and Juan is a warrior, he'll fight until the end. It's going to be a good fight."
Juan Diaz, Former Three-Time World Champion
"In boxing you might get knocked out, you might get cut, you might lose, but what show's what kind of boxer you are is how you come back."
"I'm a former World Champion, I'm 25 years old, I have nothing to lose and everything to gain."
"I'm not going to trash talk or say anything . . . that night I'm only going to see one thing in my way to being a world champion and that's Paulie Malignaggi. I'll let what I do in the ring do the talking."
Paulie Malignaggi, Former Junior Welterweight World Champion
"I've been in the gym literally the entire year; I've maybe missed three weeks, that was it."
"Believe me, I am ready to fight, I'm sharp, I wanted this fight and I'm ready."
Malcolm Klassen, IBF Junior Lightweight World Champion
"I didn't come all the way to Texas to give my title away."
"I know Robert's been sparring against Shane Mosley, and Shane is one of my idols, but I'm not Shane, I'm the total package."
Robert Guerrero, Former Two-Time Featherweight World Champion
"I'm ready to go. I had a great six-week camp. I've been sparring with Shane Mosley. Who's better to spar with than Shane Mosley? So tune in Saturday night because I'm ready to win another world title."
Danny Jacobs, Middleweight Prospect
"Ishe is a great fighter and I'm looking forward to testing my talent. I'm glad he's training hard. I'm ready for the challenge."
Ishe Smith, Veteran Middleweight
"I will not lose this fight, it's just not happening."
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About August 22 HBO Boxing After Dark Show:
Former Three-Time Lightweight World Champion Juan "Baby Bull" Diaz will take on former Junior Welterweight World Champion Paulie "Magic Man" Malignaggi in a 12 round junior welterweight bout. The co-main event will feature a world title showdown between IBF Junior Lightweight World Champion Malcom Klassen and former Two-Time Featherweight World Champion Robert "The Ghost" Guerrero in a 12 round bout for Klassen's title. The opening TV bout will see the exciting middleweight prospect Danny "The Golden Child" Jacobs taking on the battle tested Ishe "Sugar Shay" Smith in a 10 round bout for the NABO Middleweight Championship.
All three fights, which are presented by Golden Boy Promotions, with Diaz vs. Malignaggi being presented in association with DiBella Entertainment and Klassen vs. Guerrero being presented in association with Branco Sports Productions, will air on HBO Boxing After Dark beginning at 8:45 pm CT (9:45 pm ET/PT). The evening of boxing is sponsored by Quaker State, Cerveza Tecate and Southwest Airlines. Doors open at 3:15pm and the first bout begins at approximately 3:15pm.
(From Left to Right) Middleweight prospect Daniel Jacobs, former Two-Time Featherweight World Champion Robert Guerrero, former Three-Time Lightweight World Champion Juan Diaz, former Junior Welterweight World Champion Paulie Malignaggi, IBF Junior Lightweight World Champion Malcolm Klassen and veteran middleweight Ishe Smith pose on August 20, 2009 in Houston, Texas at the final press conference for their August 22, 2009 bouts at Toyota Center in Houston which will be televised live on HBO's Boxing After Dark.
who do y'all got? I'm taking Paulie by SD
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all I'll say now is Diaz by UD in a good fight.
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