⭐ OFFICIAL 2020-2021 NBA Off-Season Thread: Olympics begin 7/23; NBA Draft 7/29⭐

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All the front running in the league got people expecting teams led by guys in their early-to-mid 20s to compete at a high level from the jump.

It's silly and it's unrealistic.

And if a young star doesn’t win a chip by 26...he has to go to a large market with other stars or play with LeBron.

it’s silly.
 
So, Zo and his 5 assists is the playmaking glue guy? Man........there’s legitimately no hope for NO then.

Give them a smart pg or experience and they’ll win more. Just need a cooler head to prevail when the game is tight at the end.That’ll turn half the games they’ve given away into Ws.
 
Thats a hell of a 4 year run for a 19 year old coming outta college to a lotto team :lol:.
All the front running in the league got people expecting teams led by guys in their early-to-mid 20s to compete at a high level from the jump.

It's silly and it's unrealistic.

Not to diminish anything JT because I heavily *** with him but that was the Nets pick and JT actually joined a Celtics team that finished 53-29 (1st in the East) and swapped IT2 for Myrie. It was actually the ideal situation. Great run, though no doubt. A lot of wings would kill for that opportunity.
 
And if a young star doesn’t win a chip by 26...he has to go to a large market with other stars or play with LeBron.

it’s silly.

Agree. But I don’t see it changing since the sports culture in this country is still so quick to pronounce guys as failures for not winning a ring quick enough.
 
All the front running in the league got people expecting teams led by guys in their early-to-mid 20s to compete at a high level from the jump.

It's silly and it's unrealistic.
Chill out, don’t tell anyone that all the championships we’re seeing are won by veteran stars. Zion and all the youngsters have to win and compete for titles while they’re still on rookie deals.
 
they are 5-1 without Lonzo this month. He’s having a good season but he’s expendable. NAW is giving you basically the same production and won’t be asking for $20Ms in the summer

Guy can’t play defense and he can’t play make you can’t base him off 5 good games . Once he starts missing shots he ain’t good for nothing
 
So, Zo and his 5 assists is the playmaking glue guy? Man........there’s legitimately no hope for NO then.

Give them a smart pg or experience and they’ll win more. Just need a cooler head to prevail when the game is tight at the end.That’ll turn half the games they’ve given away into Ws.

Guy averages close to 6 and he’s playing the shooting guard on this team . Who’s a smart point guard ur taking about lol . There are none he’s the best option out there . Cp3 is due 45 mill next year . If y’all want to put the duo of Lewis and naw as your guards let’s try it . There are no good guards in the market next season who ain’t asking for big bucks . Look at Dennis buddy wants 25 million
 
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When you trade those players...you're trading them FOR other players right? You have to account for the salaries coming back. Bledsoe and Adams aren't vanishing into thin air. Money is coming back. You aren't factoring that money into your projections.

When you trade picks teams will take contracts . We got second most picks in the league right after the thunder . Give up a first rounder and two second rounders to get them out of here .
 
When you trade picks teams will take contracts . We got second most picks in the league right after the thunder . Give up a first rounder and two second rounders to get them out of here .

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Guy can’t play defense and he can’t play make you can’t base him off 5 good games . Once he starts missing shots he ain’t good for nothing

5 games in which they’ve won 3 against playoff teams and tricked one off against the Nuggets.

lonzo’s playmaking is wild overrated. He’s a spot up guy in the half court. His defense doesn’t move the needle. And Kira been filling perfectly too. All cheaper than what zo is allegedly commanding.

the team is playing their best basketball right now and it’s obvious. Give the ball to Zion. Let BI do his thing. Kira is improving in front of you and play NAW/ hart.
 


Hearing the audio of this is so satisfying. Imagine getting laughed off your own podcast :rofl:


Windy :lol. The ECF against the 19 year old Tatum Celtics counting as a championship, is one of my favorites.



Sad buddy fell out the Klutch-in crowd. He built his empire covering LeBron. Mf-er has in his bio that he’s covered Bron since HS :rollin
 
Guy averages close to 6 and he’s playing the shooting guard on this team . Who’s a smart point guard ur taking about lol . There are none he’s the best option out there . Cp3 is due 45 mill next year . If y’all want to put the duo of Lewis and naw as your guards let’s try it . There are no good guards in the market next season who ain’t asking for big bucks . Look at Dennis buddy wants 25 million
No argument here. I’m not in the “let’s get rid of talent to see which star wants to play in New Orleans” boat.

Also, ingram averages <1 assist less than Zo playing the 3, but in here he’s not a playmaker.

*michael Jackson shrug*

Not sure what Ive missed that has guys thinking young dudes posed to be out here making waves. I’m all for zion balling but trading talent away for unnamed 3&d guys that wanna come to NO ain’t it. Throw in the fact that Zion’s first 2 seasons in the league will finish with him playing in less than 100 games and the conversation is kinda crazy.
 
5 games in which they’ve won 3 against playoff teams and tricked one off against the Nuggets.

lonzo’s playmaking is wild overrated. He’s a spot up guy in the half court. His defense doesn’t move the needle. And Kira been filling perfectly too. All cheaper than what zo is allegedly commanding.

the team is playing their best basketball right now and it’s obvious. Give the ball to Zion. Let BI do his thing. Kira is improving in front of you and play NAW/ hart.

Lol stop man the young guards can’t play defense . They beat the mavs barely without Luka and kp let Brunson and hardaway cook the mThey beat Boston without brown
And they beat the lakers without ad and bron
Naw got cooked by Tatum in the first quarter of yesterday’s game . He can’t play make play defense I’m sorry
Your basically basing these guy off 5 games .
 
Celtics issues this year definitely have nothing to do with Tatum. He’s been awesome. Was the best player in last night’s game. Covid, injuries, and lack of depth is why they are where they are. All that stuff ends up compounding.
 
How many games have they Zion and Ingram played together? In a league where titles are won by acquiring talent, y’all think the Pels go be contenders with Zion and 3&d guys?
 
Not to diminish anything JT because I heavily *** with him but that was the Nets pick and JT actually joined a Celtics team that finished 53-29 (1st in the East) and swapped IT2 for Myrie. It was actually the ideal situation. Great run, though no doubt. A lot of wings would kill for that opportunity.
He got drafted into a situation with Kyrie Irving and Gordon Hayward and Al Horford all at or near their primes.

You're just not competing for titles when your team is headlined by 22-year olds when all the late-20s/early-30s stars are loading their decks to make runs.
 
No argument here. I’m not in the “let’s get rid of talent to see which star wants to play in New Orleans” boat.

Also, ingram averages <1 assist less than Zo playing the 3, but in here he’s not a playmaker.

*michael Jackson shrug*

Not sure what Ive missed that has guys thinking young dudes posed to be out here making waves. I’m all for zion balling but trading talent away for unnamed 3&d guys that wanna come to NO ain’t it. Throw in the fact that Zion’s first 2 seasons in the league will finish with him playing in less than 100 games and the conversation is kinda crazy.

Zo does not touch the ball as nearly as much as Brandon . They got him chilling off ball ready
To shoot . I ain’t say trade anyone except Bledsoe and Adams . There’s no improvement for them . I say keep the young guns together and let them build . See how they fit next year and u go from there .
 
Kawhi....probably had the most ideal situation as a wing. But he had to fail in 2013, earn it and improve. People weirdly think 2014 Kawhi was a 30ppg, 2way defender in the finals :lol. The team basketball concept is lost. But whatever.

It’s still wild to me the Spurs thing ain’t work out. Seemed a perfect fit on the surface at the time.

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