⭐ OFFICIAL 2020-2021 NBA Off-Season Thread: Olympics begin 7/23; NBA Draft 7/29⭐

[addict4sneakers]

This is true, but every time the Harden narrative is brought up it's attached to this false idea that he's carrying Bum's to victories on his shoulder & it's annoying when he quite literally has someone playing on his level if not Better.

Embiid gonna get knocked for missing time for an injury
Lebron gonna get knocked for missing time for an injury
Giannis gonna get knocked for Being consistent
James is gonna get a pass for willingly quitting on tenth of the season, and putting up numbers next to another Top Tier offensive threat

it's extremely inconsistent

I don’t hear anyone talking of harden carrying the nets though. We all know Myrie is there.

and based on your math, that means it’s Jokic‘s MVP to lose. And I’m cool with that.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

LOL @ “Garbage”. NT extremes at work. They’re a playoff teams and only two games out of the 4 seed. They just beat the Bucks last night.

Disappointing, yes. Garbage, silly.

Let me exaggerate please

 

[trynafeelmink]

I don’t hear anyone talking of harden carrying the nets though. We all know Myrie is there.

and based on your math, that means it’s Jokic‘s MVP to lose. And I’m cool with that.

Due to Injuries He probably is in the lead right now it is what it is, I would personally have Giannis because of the other side of the ball but i know the Media ain't giving him three in a row

 

[QU!K]

For all the flack Myrie got about being toxic from myself included

The best he did for the the Nets is let Harden run point.

 

[storm2006]

I don’t hear anyone talking of harden carrying the nets though. We all know Myrie is there.

Before he @‘s me, I have said that Jim is carrying the team BUT TO BE CLEAR, I purely mean that in the sense of carrying them while KD and Hot Sauce are away from the team.

 

[misha]

Due to Injuries He probably is in the lead right now it is what it is, I would personally have Giannis because of the other side of the ball but i know the Media ain't giving him three in a row

Is jokic winning the mvp if the nuggets end up in fourth place and the nets are in first ? Same stats as of today for both players . Betting odds as of
Today is -125 jokic 950 harden

 

[yobyellav]

The Celtics are under .5 after the all start break. We all know they're better than that, but garbage is a fair descriptor right now.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

It would just be a shame if Harden let ya'll down again in the playoff. Them 3-17 with 10 turnovers games can't happen.

 

[addict4sneakers]

Jokic is that dude. Defense isn’t as bad people make to be either. Fitness legend was catching a lot of flack and dude been generational.

Dirk Gasol is almost an insult at this point

 

[B Sox]

Williams Bros did a good job on Yanni last night. Didn't let him get to all his spots. Don't totally hate the matchup with the Bucks.

 

[misha]

It would just be a shame if Harden let ya'll down again in the playoff. Them 3-17 with 10 turnovers games can't happen.

Won’t have to instead of relying on Eric Gordon or westbrick to get a bucket he has kd or myrie who I think likes playing the shooting guard .

 

[B Sox]

Before he @‘s me, I have said that Jim is carrying the team BUT TO BE CLEAR, I purely mean that in the sense of carrying them while KD and Hot Sauce are away from the team.

You definitely shouldn't have to give this explanation. Should be pretty obvious what you mean, but you know how it is with some dudes

 

[trynafeelmink]

Is jokic winning the mvp if the nuggets end up in fourth place and the nets are in first ? Same stats as of today for both players . Betting odds as of
Today is -125 jokic 950 harden

If the voters are anywhere near consistent i don't see how Harden gets it. Not to mention we know other factors go into the award.

 

[storm2006]

It would just be a shame if Harden let ya'll down again in the playoff. Them 3-17 with 10 turnovers games can't happen.

But EYE was told he’s a sidekick playing with two other elite offensive players so that should be fine, right?

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Won’t have to instead of relying on Eric Gordon or westbrick to get a bucket he has kd or myrie who I think likes playing the shooting guard .

But the Spurs ain't have Kawhi that game... nvm I ain't gon do that today.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

But EYE was told he’s a sidekick playing with two other elite offensive players so that should be fine, right?

Not the man that's better than Mike and Kobe

 

[getback]

The Celtics are under .5 after the all start break. We all know they're better than that, but garbage is a fair descriptor right now.

Underachieving big time. Wouldn't call them garbage. That leaves no room for teams like the Rockets to be described.

 

[storm2006]

Not the man that's better than Mike and Kobe

I am aware many talking heads in the media run with that narrative but has any NTer ever stamped “Jim > Mike and Kobe offensively”?

 

[lawdog1]

Underachieving big time. Wouldn't call them garbage. That leaves no room for teams like the Rockets to be described.

Or the LeBron and AD-less Lakers.

 

[everysingletime]

My thing is, there team is led by three players who are under 23...... what are ya'll expecting to happen??

I agree that Zion should get more opportunities at the end of the game but he's young & inexperienced too, people are acting like he's MJ as a closer or something. Him & ingram essentially have played less than a season together It's gonna take awhile.

It's a game where he's score 39 and he was the only one who scored in the last 6 minutes though. It's only common sense that he gets the ball for the final play.

 

[HOU$TON]

It would just be a shame if Harden let ya'll down again in the playoff. Them 3-17 with 10 turnovers games can't happen.

What about these games? Always fail to mention these and he has quite a few

 

[lawdog1]

I'd wait to do anything considering his age and the team's point guard situation. And I'm assuming you mean his Lakers years too. He wasn't the same player then, especially that last year. The first couple were pick up games with a weird collection of players and the last was playing with Bron. I legit wouldn't count those years at all. The "taking possessions" talk is wild considering I think he should average more attempts.

Yeah, I think where we mainly disagree on him is with his ceiling. I think he is what he is and don’t expect much additional improvement from him. It’s not that common for guys who have already been starters their whole careers to really level up in defense, rebounding and playmaking after year 4 or 5.

But I could be wrong. I certainly didn’t anticipate Julius Randle becoming an every-night triple-double threat and that happened.

 

[yobyellav]

Underachieving big time. Wouldn't call them garbage. That leaves no room for teams like the Rockets to be described.

The rockets aspire to be garbage.

That's fair lawdog1 . Thank the bball gods for teams like cleveland.

 

[everysingletime]

And Steven Adams ain’t ? The guy who stays in the paint where Zion basically lives ? The guy who can’t play defense on a center or in the pick and roll . The guy getting 28 million a year and then 35 in the next two years . What is he good for ? Ingram can change his game . Your center is supposed to provide defensive help if he can’t score but he can’t do
**** . They trade to trade lonzo along with Adams or Bledsoe and look no one wants those **** contracts .
like I said a combined 60 million of salary was wasted this year to surround the young core .

Steven Adams isn't calling for the ball when it should be in zion's hands though

 

[trynafeelmink]

Again I don't even know why I try this Harden debate, there's people who have called him objectively the offensive player in history.

He has almost two seasons worth of playoff basketball...... & he isn't even league average in FG% or 3pt% over that span.

This man makes all logic disappear

I'll check back with ya'll when KD burner is posting Harden playoff numbers in may