Question Regarding SC Trainer/Bo Jackson

[fenixconnexion.]

hey NT, quick question. Were the SC Trainers made specifically as a Bo Jackson sig line shoe? or were they made, then Bo Jackson wore/promoted them and Nikeused Bo Jackson to market the shoe? thanks in advance

 

[air max 87]

i belive they were made for him specifically, he was signed to NIKE already or around the same time, and he needed a shoe that did everything, like he did.

correct me if im wrong....

 

[huaracheking1914]

^^^^

u r correct man....

 

[trethousandgt]

Originally Posted by HuaracheKing1914

^^^^

u r correct man....

Wrong, they weren't made for him specifically but he was the athlete used to endorse the product, he was used somewhat in the development but they weredefinitely not made specially for him, watch this video

 

[fenixconnexion.]

trethousandgt wrote:

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Originally Posted by HuaracheKing1914

^^^^

u r correct man....

Wrong, they weren't made for him specifically but he was the athlete used to endorse the product, he was used somewhat in the development but they were definitely not made specially for him, watch this video
hmm okay thakns for the input. that video doesnt talk about the SC trainer specifically though...
anyone else?

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[Sinner]

^ Well, the thing is, I think the SC's were made with Bo in mind, but just not named after him. You didn't see other athletes using them "on thefield" because they were a training sneaker. Maybe some athletes wore them while training or in the weight room, but not during games.

Also, back then there weren't a lot of 'player named' shoe lines, other than Jordan of course. The Air Tech Challenge line was for Agassi, butagain, the line wasn't named after Agassi, but he was the face of that line. Other players wore the Air Tech Challenge on court, but not Agassi'scolorways.

I'm sure Wally can fill us in.

 

[trethousandgt]

Originally Posted by SinnerP

^ Well, the thing is, I think the SC's were made with Bo in mind, but just not named after him. You didn't see other athletes using them "on the field" because they were a training sneaker. Maybe some athletes wore them while training or in the weight room, but not during games.

Also, back then there weren't a lot of 'player named' shoe lines, other than Jordan of course. The Air Tech Challenge line was for Agassi, but again, the line wasn't named after Agassi, but he was the face of that line. Other players wore the Air Tech Challenge on court, but not Agassi's colorways.

I'm sure Wally can fill us in.

Exactly, these shoes were not made for For bo jackson otherwise they would have been called nike trainer sc bo jackson, such as the jordan line,the griffey line, CB line etc. Bo Jackson as was shown in that video was the person used to endorse the product, none of the trainer lines were madespecifically for the athelete that endorsed them. They use the atheletes in the R&D but it wasn't specifically designed just for Bo Jackson.

 

[ninjahood]

Originally Posted by trethousandgt

Originally Posted by SinnerP

^ Well, the thing is, I think the SC's were made with Bo in mind, but just not named after him. You didn't see other athletes using them "on the field" because they were a training sneaker. Maybe some athletes wore them while training or in the weight room, but not during games.

Also, back then there weren't a lot of 'player named' shoe lines, other than Jordan of course. The Air Tech Challenge line was for Agassi, but again, the line wasn't named after Agassi, but he was the face of that line. Other players wore the Air Tech Challenge on court, but not Agassi's colorways.

I'm sure Wally can fill us in.

Exactly, these shoes were not made for For bo jackson otherwise they would have been called nike trainer sc bo jackson, such as the jordan line, the griffey line, CB line etc. Bo Jackson as was shown in that video was the person used to endorse the product, none of the trainer lines were made specifically for the athelete that endorsed them. They use the atheletes in the R&D but it wasn't specifically designed just for Bo Jackson.

i disagree considering da first 2 colorways were basically from bo jackson's history

(auburn, & raiders)

and let's not forget..

and lastly, you ask any casual consumer "yo which nikes are da bo jacksons" and they're gonna pick these 10 times outta 10...its so ingrainedthat girls

don't even know bo jackson is a real person, they think you talking about sneakers.

 

[trethousandgt]

Originally Posted by ninjahood

Originally Posted by trethousandgt

Originally Posted by SinnerP

^ Well, the thing is, I think the SC's were made with Bo in mind, but just not named after him. You didn't see other athletes using them "on the field" because they were a training sneaker. Maybe some athletes wore them while training or in the weight room, but not during games.

Also, back then there weren't a lot of 'player named' shoe lines, other than Jordan of course. The Air Tech Challenge line was for Agassi, but again, the line wasn't named after Agassi, but he was the face of that line. Other players wore the Air Tech Challenge on court, but not Agassi's colorways.

I'm sure Wally can fill us in.

Exactly, these shoes were not made for For bo jackson otherwise they would have been called nike trainer sc bo jackson, such as the jordan line, the griffey line, CB line etc. Bo Jackson as was shown in that video was the person used to endorse the product, none of the trainer lines were made specifically for the athelete that endorsed them. They use the atheletes in the R&D but it wasn't specifically designed just for Bo Jackson.

i disagree considering da first 2 colorways were basically from bo jackson's history

(auburn, & raiders)

and let's not forget..

and lastly, you ask any casual consumer "yo which nikes are da bo jacksons" and they're gonna pick these 10 times outta 10...its so ingrained that girls

don't even know bo jackson is a real person, they think you talking about sneakers.

That doesn't mean anything. Barkley wore the Nike Air Force III and one of the first colorways to release was the sixer's colorway but its not hisshoe. The premier reebok pump was worn by dominique wilkins but that wasn't his sig shoe. The trainer sc was nikes cross training line, not a shoedesigned SPECIFICALLY for BO Jackson, which was the actual question. Ofcourse your correct that most people call them the Bo Jacksons and they don't evenknow who he is, however his name does not appear on the box. Kevin garnett, jordan, charles barkley, lebron, griffey, these guys have shoes that were madespecifically for their exact needs, Bo jackson was just the face of the shoe of the shoe just like david robinson was the face for the Nike Force line. Theyare involved in the R & D of the shoe but its not designed specifically for them.

 

[Sinner]

OK, just came across this in the current issue of Sole Collector... the one about Trainers...

For what its worth... in the interview with Bo:

Q ~ Is there anything you specifically remember about working out in that shoe (SC Trainer), and were you involved at all in the colorway of it?
A ~ Yes, I was. One thing that I stressed when we were doing this shoe was that I wanted a shoe that stands out. Back then, you either had a grey shoe, oryou had a black shoe, or you had a white shoe. I just said, "I need something to wear that people can see me coming from a mile away". Hence, theorange and purple, and so forth and so on. That was the first shoe, and thats my baby. All of this material on the side here and the great materials, thiswas, as some would call it, the "shiznick" back in the day [laughs].

Is he referring to just the colorway or the SC as a whole? I'll dig around the Tinker interview for more clues...

 

[ninjahood]

Originally Posted by trethousandgt

Originally Posted by ninjahood

Originally Posted by trethousandgt

Originally Posted by SinnerP

^ Well, the thing is, I think the SC's were made with Bo in mind, but just not named after him. You didn't see other athletes using them "on the field" because they were a training sneaker. Maybe some athletes wore them while training or in the weight room, but not during games.

Also, back then there weren't a lot of 'player named' shoe lines, other than Jordan of course. The Air Tech Challenge line was for Agassi, but again, the line wasn't named after Agassi, but he was the face of that line. Other players wore the Air Tech Challenge on court, but not Agassi's colorways.

I'm sure Wally can fill us in.

Exactly, these shoes were not made for For bo jackson otherwise they would have been called nike trainer sc bo jackson, such as the jordan line, the griffey line, CB line etc. Bo Jackson as was shown in that video was the person used to endorse the product, none of the trainer lines were made specifically for the athelete that endorsed them. They use the atheletes in the R&D but it wasn't specifically designed just for Bo Jackson.

i disagree considering da first 2 colorways were basically from bo jackson's history

(auburn, & raiders)

and let's not forget..

and lastly, you ask any casual consumer "yo which nikes are da bo jacksons" and they're gonna pick these 10 times outta 10...its so ingrained that girls

don't even know bo jackson is a real person, they think you talking about sneakers.

That doesn't mean anything. Barkley wore the Nike Air Force III and one of the first colorways to release was the sixer's colorway but its not his shoe. The premier reebok pump was worn by dominique wilkins but that wasn't his sig shoe. The trainer sc was nikes cross training line, not a shoe designed SPECIFICALLY for BO Jackson, which was the actual question. Ofcourse your correct that most people call them the Bo Jacksons and they don't even know who he is, however his name does not appear on the box. Kevin garnett, jordan, charles barkley, lebron, griffey, these guys have shoes that were made specifically for their exact needs, Bo jackson was just the face of the shoe of the shoe just like david robinson was the face for the Nike Force line. They are involved in the R & D of the shoe but its not designed specifically for them.

explain this one then

just cuz certain shoes weren't designed for certain player or even had they name on da box don't mean it wasn't they shoe or da fact that nike wasadvertising

a shoe specifically for a player.

certain coloways personifed a player's sneaker especially in da 90's...same way non of rodman's kicks said his name be we all know his kicks wereda

darwins, ndestrucks, etc. same way tim hardaway's kicks were da air bakin even though they didn't say air tim-hardaway on it.

 

[swingshot]

Now it's down to splitting hairs.

Jordan had little to do with the design of the X, but it was still made for him.

Pippen reportedly was too busy to be heavily involved in the design of the Pippen 1, but it was still made for him.

The Foam One wasn't originally intended to be for Penny, but when he saw it, he loved it, and it's very much seen as his shoe.

 

[trethousandgt]

Originally Posted by ninjahood

Originally Posted by trethousandgt

Originally Posted by ninjahood

Originally Posted by trethousandgt

Originally Posted by SinnerP

^ Well, the thing is, I think the SC's were made with Bo in mind, but just not named after him. You didn't see other athletes using them "on the field" because they were a training sneaker. Maybe some athletes wore them while training or in the weight room, but not during games.

Also, back then there weren't a lot of 'player named' shoe lines, other than Jordan of course. The Air Tech Challenge line was for Agassi, but again, the line wasn't named after Agassi, but he was the face of that line. Other players wore the Air Tech Challenge on court, but not Agassi's colorways.

I'm sure Wally can fill us in.

Exactly, these shoes were not made for For bo jackson otherwise they would have been called nike trainer sc bo jackson, such as the jordan line, the griffey line, CB line etc. Bo Jackson as was shown in that video was the person used to endorse the product, none of the trainer lines were made specifically for the athelete that endorsed them. They use the atheletes in the R&D but it wasn't specifically designed just for Bo Jackson.

i disagree considering da first 2 colorways were basically from bo jackson's history

(auburn, & raiders)

and let's not forget..

and lastly, you ask any casual consumer "yo which nikes are da bo jacksons" and they're gonna pick these 10 times outta 10...its so ingrained that girls

don't even know bo jackson is a real person, they think you talking about sneakers.

That doesn't mean anything. Barkley wore the Nike Air Force III and one of the first colorways to release was the sixer's colorway but its not his shoe. The premier reebok pump was worn by dominique wilkins but that wasn't his sig shoe. The trainer sc was nikes cross training line, not a shoe designed SPECIFICALLY for BO Jackson, which was the actual question. Ofcourse your correct that most people call them the Bo Jacksons and they don't even know who he is, however his name does not appear on the box. Kevin garnett, jordan, charles barkley, lebron, griffey, these guys have shoes that were made specifically for their exact needs, Bo jackson was just the face of the shoe of the shoe just like david robinson was the face for the Nike Force line. They are involved in the R & D of the shoe but its not designed specifically for them.

explain this one then

just cuz certain shoes weren't designed for certain player or even had they name on da box don't mean it wasn't they shoe or da fact that nike was advertising

a shoe specifically for a player.

certain coloways personifed a player's sneaker especially in da 90's...same way non of rodman's kicks said his name be we all know his kicks were da

darwins, ndestrucks, etc. same way tim hardaway's kicks were da air bakin even though they didn't say air tim-hardaway on it.

Listen, your getting wayyyyy off the original question at hand. The nike trainer sc was NOT designed specifically for Bo jackson. The trainer series evolvedover time, it was a cross training shoe, John Mcenroe wore the original trainer 1 does that mean it was his shoe? NO. The trainer sc although unofficially bojacksons shoe, was never officially a bo jackson shoe. Like i have stated earlier it was a cross training shoe (the most expensive one offered at that timefrom nike) They had cheaper versions of the trainer sc that looked similar but without visible air, bo wore those too should those be BO's sig shoes? Theywere all part of Nikes cross training line, but it was never officially a Bo jackson shoe. If the trainer sc was his sig shoe, then the original trainer 1would have been his sig shoe as well and it wasn't. Jordans are jordans, pippens are pippens, pennys are pennys etc. Those shoes did not evolve over timewith multiple atheletes promoting each evolving shoe, it was THEIR SHOE. Case closed.

 

[asianimage]

yup...I am actually in the middle of reading the SOLE COLLECTOR article..the whole mag is about is Nike cross training and yes the air trainer was NOT made forBo...in fact in the article they wanted another person but Bo kinda fell in the mix. Anyways..the question has been answered.

 

[green rhino123]

they weren't called air bo's
semantics really but no

 

[fenixconnexion.]

oh ok thanks for the replies, but i agree with ninjahood about certain shoes being specifically referred to as a player's name even though it's nottheir sig line. hell if you're wearing darwins and you dont know rodman wore em they should be confiscated right off your feet

 

[wallyhopp]

are we talking just the latest retro release model ie, the SC TRAINER (III)?

or the whole line? if so:

i think its a true mix. it started off as just a endorser of certain shoes, then it got a bit bigger.

87-88, he was in some basic non sig. cross trainer ads

Later with the first SC, he was basically the "main" focal point:

The SC II in 89, he had his own commerical and then right there, you knew "those were the bo's"

The SC IIIs even had a BO CLUB membership card with the orginals, and those also had those crazy commericals.

The laceLOCK up top is even in the shape of the letter B as seen in Bo Jackson's signature. Its errily similar.



sc III catalog with Bo

trainer max 91s had bo again:

-trainer max 91 also had a bo commerical.

Later on around 92 there was this shoe

named:

in closing, i just think it may be too tough to say what came first etc.. It's really blurry to me.

that BO JACKSON CLUB CARD seen with the trainer SC IIIs may be the one thing that says to me, YES, these were a bo jackson signature shoe

 

[ninjahood]

^^^

If u went by da letter of da law and "only counted sigs w/ his name" he'd only have one shoe..that to sneakerheads

And raiders fans that don't even sound right.

 

[taggpoppernj]

Looking at the trainer 1's in that video, crazy if nike would have went with the strap at the ankle instead of the front of the foot. The trainer Max91's I didn't understand. I had a pair of the retro og's from a few years back. How are sopose to rock the strap on those? the strap not longenough to get around the foot. I even laced them as tight as I could and was suprized. Never seen a strap like that before. Its removable but it kinda killsthe shoe when you do take it off.

 

[fenixconnexion.]

wallyhopp - my original question was strictly for the SC Trainers but mind as well clear it up for the whole line. I appreciate your detailed post.

taggpopper - i have a pair of the black/white trainer 91s and the strap only goes up until the middle of the fore foot, i dont even tie mine up that tight andthey fit.