Moving out of the United States vs traveling world wide.

[the nomad]

I'm getting bored with the United States, people, life, economy, education etc ...Just the overall American way of life is monotonous, stagnant and stale ( if all three can exist in one reality). 

Thinking about Canada, but I like the gloominess of the UK London and the accents. Luther makes London seem dope (don't ask me why). 

A girl I once knew had an older brother who lived in Germany, said he was never coming back to the U.S.

One of my boys has a cousin who moved to China to teach English, he's one of those racially ambiguous guys where you can't tell what he is. But he's Skyping my boy all the time with women in the background half naked having pillow fights hugging all on him. He also travels China on weekends. He says he's never coming back.

I also thought about Africa, but I have a family and there's always rebel wars, rapes and random killings in the news. Even when I did my research.

I love New York but it's expensive, however I'd hate to move to a small town and get trapped there because it's affordable. But this would probably be the only way I'd get to travel. 

I want to spend my 30's traveling, back packing, sailing, and hiking the world. I'm seriously putting together a plan to make this economically possible. My wife is a New York junkie, she loves New York, everything New York, she won't leave. So I have to find a place that provides that big city metropolis feel she loves.

United States is going down the toilet, part of my motivation is a contingency plan for when that day comes when the rest of the world gets tired of the United States' BS.

 

[harlemtothebronx]

Planning on visiting Australia soon.

 

[rawex5]

You should go to Belize.

 

[the nomad]

You should go to Belize.

[h3]Cost of Living in Belize[/h3]
Belize  is not the most affordable place to settle in Central America. You’ll likely find prices for some items to be more than what you’re used to paying in the United States…but then discover that many services actually cost less.

Monthly living expenses in Belize vary widely, but $3,000 a month is more than adequate for most couples. The more you entertain and travel, of course, the more your costs will climb. It is possible, however, for a couple to live on considerably less than $3,000. Bear in mind that prices are generally higher in places like Ambergris Caye or Placencia. Ambergris is an island–and that means everything is imported. You’ll pay extra for that transport cost.

On the other hand, if you decide to live in the north of Belize  in Corozal and can take advantage of easy shopping trips to nearby Mexico, you can enjoy all the benefits of English-speaking Belize…but buy your goods for less just across the border.
[h3]Eat Like a Local When You Live in Belize[/h3]
Food prices vary greatly from place to place, but savvy expats living in Belize  know how to cut costs and eat better than most Americans do. Dinner, including food and beverages, can cost $45 a person at an expensive restaurant. But by seeking the advice from local residents, especially expats who know the restaurant scene, you can dine on lobster for less than half that amount.

Or you can order Belizean food and cut costs even more. Sandwiches typically cost less than $2, and beer and coffee are about $1. On the other hand, a medium-quality bottle of red wine is likely to be about $15.

Visitors and newcomers should be aware that the cost of food varies drastically from one area of Belize to another and sometimes even within the same town.
[h3]Other Costs of Living in Belize[/h3]
Garbage removal: About $10 a month

Property maintenance: Yard workers usually charge $15 to $20 a day. Because bushes grow quickly in the tropics, some housing developments provide a service to keep property cleared. In Consejo Shores, for example, the fee is $120 per year. The typical salary for housekeepers in Belize is $15 per day, and if you need a caretaker to look after the house while you’re away, figure on $50 to $100 a month.

Cars and gasoline: In Belize, you can buy a fairly good used vehicle for about $3,000 to $4,000, not much more than you might pay in the U.S. Gasoline, however, is costly. The recent price was about $5.50 a gallon, but black-market fuel, known as “bucket gas,” costs about $3 a gallon. But be careful: Many sellers of bucket gas are known to give buyers significantly less than a full gallon.

Water: In most parts of Belize, $15 to $20 will cover the monthly water bill. Be aware that although tap water in Belize is safe to drink, it often has a bad taste. Moreover, water service doesn’t exist on many islands and some remote inland communities. For many residents, the solution is a cistern that collects and stores rainwater. Typical cost: $3,500 to $6,000.

Electricity: Belize  Electricity Limited (BEL) is the only commercial provider of electricity, although many houses and condominiums have their own generators. For residential customers, BEL charges a $5-per-month service fee plus the relatively high rate of 15.5 cents per kilowatt hour for the first 50 kilowatt hours used, 20.5 cents for the next 150, and 23 cents for each kilowatt hour over the first 200. Most expats discover that the best way to hold down electricity costs is to use less air-conditioning.

Phone: A standard phone costs $56 to install, plus a deposit of $75. The basic monthly fee is $13.50, but international rates are high and Belize  Telephone Ltd. is the only provider. It costs 70 cents a minute to phone the U.S. during the day and 49 cents in the evening. The respective rates are $1.10 and 77 cents to Canada and $1.50 and $1.05 to Western Europe.

 

[RIP sleazyy]

You should go to Belize.

 

[offbad]

just leave. 

 

[the nomad]

That's cold.

 

[solegit08til]

I heard shawtys overseas like American accents.

 

[Coromanti]

Switzerland.  Geneva and Zurich are international centers and are pretty great cities (though Geneva is better IMO).  The language barrier is obviously an issue.

 

[Hank Scorpio]

I'm getting bored with the United States, people, life, economy, education etc ...Just the overall American way of life is monotonous, stagnant and stale ( if all three can exist in one reality). 


Thinking about Canada, but I like the gloominess of the UK London and the accents. Luther makes London seem dope (don't ask me why). 

A girl I once knew had an older brother who lived in Germany, said he was never coming back to the U.S.

One of my boys has a cousin who moved to China to teach English, he's one of those racially ambiguous guys where you can't tell what he is. But he's Skyping my boy all the time with women in the background half naked having pillow fights hugging all on him. He also travels China on weekends. He says he's never coming back.


I also thought about Africa, but I have a family and there's always rebel wars, rapes and random killings in the news. Even when I did my research.


I love New York but it's expensive, however I'd hate to move to a small town and get trapped there because it's affordable. But this would probably be the only way I'd get to travel. 

I want to spend my 30's traveling, back packing, sailing, and hiking the world. I'm seriously putting together a plan to make this economically possible. My wife is a New York junkie, she loves New York, everything New York, she won't leave. So I have to find a place that provides that big city metropolis feel she loves.

United States is going down the toilet, part of my motivation is a contingency plan for when that day comes when the rest of the world gets tired of the United States' BS.

The "gloominess" in London is there, but don't expect the accents to be there as much as you thought. There has been a SIGNIFICANT outcome of immigration in England. Britain no longer has that British "charm" it once had. You'll run into more people without the accent than people with it. It's like meeting native New Yorkers in NYC.

The employment job outlook in Germany is laughable as well. Not to mention, their taxes are a pain in the ***. If you think taxes in America are bad, you haven't seen anything yet out in Europe.

The same job outlook issues are occurring in China as well. Not to mention, the difference in culture and communication in China. The people there have a much different outlook on life than we do here in the USA. Also, if you're not specializing in something specific in China, it'll almost be impossible for you to work there as well.

I get that you want to travel and see the world, but you need to make sure it economically makes sense with your current living situation. This applies especially if you're thinking about moving into these countries permanently. You also need to figure out what the immigration laws are for the corresponding country of travel.

Switzerland.  Geneva and Zurich are international centers and are pretty great cities (though Geneva is better IMO).  The language barrier is obviously an issue.

These are the countries you want to go live in IMO.

I heard shawtys overseas like American accents.

NOT true. Unless you're in England or Italy--you're not impressing anyone with you American accent.

Also, if you have some sort of "other" American accent and you all know what I mean by this; You're not going to charm anyone. Sorry to break the bad news to all the southern, mid-western, and urban vernacular speaking folks here

 

[RIP sleazyy]

That's cold.

 

[beh235]

You should go to Belize.

I owe you a rep for that.

 

[denni5themenace]

i've always wanted to go to asia and teach english. i'm still fairly young and i've just really started my career.

i don't plan on staying at my accounting firm forever, has anyone took a year off and traveled while they were in between jobs? i'm afraid the year off would look bad in future job searches..

 

[bamez]

Had a stopover in Switzerland, everything was so expensive there.  My burger at the airport was priced at i think ~$22 USD.  Also my flight landed at 10:30 PM and the sun was still up.

 

[beh235]

$22 for a hamburger? 

 

[Coromanti]

Switzerland.  Geneva and Zurich are international centers and are pretty great cities (though Geneva is better IMO).  The language barrier is obviously an issue.

These are the countries you want to go live in IMO.

Yes it is.  I've been there 10 times as a child and teenager.  It's a great place and just a suggestion.

 

[combo gd]

Some inspiration...

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=801516

This is better than a movie or book. I am almost halfway through the thread, and what it has evolved into is absolutely AMAZING. 

 

[the nomad]

The "gloominess" in London is there, but don't expect the accents to be there as much as you thought. There has been a SIGNIFICANT outcome of immigration in England. Britain no longer has that British "charm" it once had. You'll run into more people without the accent than people with it. It's like meeting native New Yorkers in NYC.
 

The landscapes featured on Luther seemed dope, I gotta look up film locations one day. Maybe it's my infatuation with Alice Morgan, not so much her physical appearance, but her intellect and tactfulness. Then there's Sophie Dee.

Something about British women, their sex appeal doesn't come from looks alone, but more or less their attitude about things.

7 with a good attitude > 10 who's shallow or dumb as bag of rocks

 

[elcatfisho]

what the hell... you want to go backpacking or hiking just go to a state park. Thousands of them in the US, no need to go overseas if that's what you want to do.

You can't go camping in NYC but you don't need to leave your house, the state, the country just to get away from it all. Just go drive somewhere for a weekend.

 

[sundoobie]

just leave. 

They'll be back!

People like OP make it sound like it's so bad here in America. Hell I can't go past a few weeks in a foreign country where I don't speak the language or know their customs without getting frustrated and wishing I was back Stateside. To me after a few weeks, it feels great being on that flight back to LAX knowing you're back home with friends and family.

 

[the nomad]

Some inspiration...

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=801516

This is better than a movie or book. I am almost halfway through the thread, and what it has evolved into is absolutely AMAZING. 

Gonna start reading it, probably will finish over the weekend. His wife looks like a freak though, down for whatever in that tent 

. Props.

But I have a family, so I just can't up and leave like that. It has to be planned around them.

 

[shloob]

Originally Posted by The Nomad  
 

One of my boys has a cousin who moved to China to teach English, he's one of those racially ambiguous guys where you can't tell what he is. But he's Skyping my boy all the time with women in the background half naked having pillow fights hugging all on him. He also travels China on weekends. He says he's never coming back.

 

more on this please. Pictures would be great. 

 

[eiddyfouw]

I'm getting bored with the United States, people, life, economy, education etc ...Just the overall American way of life is monotonous, stagnant and stale ( if all three can exist in one reality). 


Thinking about Canada, but I like the gloominess of the UK London and the accents. Luther makes London seem dope (don't ask me why). 

A girl I once knew had an older brother who lived in Germany, said he was never coming back to the U.S.

One of my boys has a cousin who moved to China to teach English, he's one of those racially ambiguous guys where you can't tell what he is. But he's Skyping my boy all the time with women in the background half naked having pillow fights hugging all on him. He also travels China on weekends. He says he's never coming back.


I also thought about Africa, but I have a family and there's always rebel wars, rapes and random killings in the news. Even when I did my research.


I love New York but it's expensive, however I'd hate to move to a small town and get trapped there because it's affordable. But this would probably be the only way I'd get to travel. 

I want to spend my 30's traveling, back packing, sailing, and hiking the world. I'm seriously putting together a plan to make this economically possible. My wife is a New York junkie, she loves New York, everything New York, she won't leave. So I have to find a place that provides that big city metropolis feel she loves.

United States is going down the toilet, part of my motivation is a contingency plan for when that day comes when the rest of the world gets tired of the United States' BS.

Africa is a continent. With many countries. Some are very stable, and others are not. You need to do more research.

 

[Hank Scorpio]

more on this please. Pictures would be great. 

Could be hired hookers. Prostitution there is dirt cheap, especially if you're paying with USD or Euros.

 

[Deleted member 87369]

Wait you're married?