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Is posse a negative term?
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Is posse a negative term?
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I think there's some hyper-sensitivity on Carter's part. I'm sure over the years, he's heard it all about how he's in the position he is due to having a golden ticket/nepotism. It definitely undermines the hard work Carter has surely put in to make himself respected in NBA circles. However, it's hard for a lot of people not to shake the perception they have of his value.
In any line of work, where you have someone benefit from coming from family money, being associated with someone rich, etc., you're going to have folks look at you funny and question your business acumen. It just goes with the territory, and all you can do is keep grinding and not let outside distractions keep you from what you're trying to do.
Not a lot of people are going to tell Lebron "no," and I'm sure most of his proposals on the business end are met with open arms due to his celebrity. That's just my take...
All that being said, and considering some of the comments that Phil has made in the past, there may have been a racial undertone through the comment(s) that he made. At first I thought it was just Phil being an *** and giving a backhanded remark, but Phil has made some other slick comments in the past.
Another question for another day is how has Phil been given a pass all these years? Danny Ferry is still looking for work due to being racially insensitive...but Phil got his big $$ and is running the Knicks.
In any line of work, where you have someone benefit from coming from family money, being associated with someone rich, etc., you're going to have folks look at you funny and question your business acumen. It just goes with the territory, and all you can do is keep grinding and not let outside distractions keep you from what you're trying to do.
Not a lot of people are going to tell Lebron "no," and I'm sure most of his proposals on the business end are met with open arms due to his celebrity. That's just my take...
All that being said, and considering some of the comments that Phil has made in the past, there may have been a racial undertone through the comment(s) that he made. At first I thought it was just Phil being an *** and giving a backhanded remark, but Phil has made some other slick comments in the past.
Another question for another day is how has Phil been given a pass all these years? Danny Ferry is still looking for work due to being racially insensitive...but Phil got his big $$ and is running the Knicks.
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Interesting.
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Didn't really understand the issue at first, kinda still don't but I guess I can see how they feel slighted. But I feel like this is a big overreaction.
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If a you and a group of people walked into a restaurant and the hostess or whomever referred to your group as a posse its not a respectful term imho.
But i think different situations may warrant it? Lol i dunno
But i think different situations may warrant it? Lol i dunno
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Phil was being his normal condescending and dismissive self
He needs to worry about the Knicks instead of other teams. He still doesn't seem to get that. Like last year when he was talking about the Lakers so much.
He needs to worry about the Knicks instead of other teams. He still doesn't seem to get that. Like last year when he was talking about the Lakers so much.
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Phil stupid for commenting on something from like maybe at least like 4 years ago, just bored b/c the Knicks arent going anywhere...
Phil stupid for commenting on something from like maybe at least like 4 years ago, just bored b/c the Knicks arent going anywhere...
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I didn't think it was racist *shrug*. I can see if he's upset he considered apart of the posse when he put in his work to try to make a name for himself but let's be real no lebron no u.
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More condescending than racial imo. However it wouldn't be a stretch to say there's a racial undertone here. I do doubt that Phil would have used the word posse to refer to a player of a different race though.
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i would call it posse...i don't see the problem here.
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lebron really used da race card on Phil Jackson....for using posse?
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Maverick Carter picking/choosing his battles...did he say anything about Dan Gilbert and how Lebron & his squad were treated on their way out the door? Spoke on him like he (Lebron) was a piece of property...then he re-signed.
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Never thought of posse as something negative. As far as I'm concerned it's kind of a synonym for crew, entourage, ...
Depending on how it's used it could be a bit condescending.
Depending on how it's used it could be a bit condescending.
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Highly disrespectful. These dudes are running a billion dollar operation, put some respeck on their names.
Posse's leach. These dudes leveraged their relationship with Lebron and are making moves. Can't think of any other circumstance where businesses associates would get disrespected
Posse's leach. These dudes leveraged their relationship with Lebron and are making moves. Can't think of any other circumstance where businesses associates would get disrespected
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That isn't all Phil said to garner the reaction you're seeing from Bron X Carter.... I'm pretty sure they're aware of previous PJ statements like;
"I don't mean to say [that] as a snide remark toward a certain population in our society, but they have a limitation of their attention span, a lot of it probably due to too much rap music going in their ears and coming out their being."
"I think it's important that the players take their end of it, get out of the prison garb and the thuggery aspect of basketball that has come along with hip-hop music in the last seven or eight years."
"I don't mean to say [that] as a snide remark toward a certain population in our society, but they have a limitation of their attention span, a lot of it probably due to too much rap music going in their ears and coming out their being."
"I think it's important that the players take their end of it, get out of the prison garb and the thuggery aspect of basketball that has come along with hip-hop music in the last seven or eight years."
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This is really a non-issue to me, but oh well.
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100% agreed.
Phil been condescending and out of touch for years now, though. On top of that he's pompous and entitled.
I'm glad they didn't mince words, though. There is nothing positive about the phrase 'posse.' And as successful professionals they deserve the respect of not being labeled that way.
But like they say, doesn't matter what you accomplish, they'll still look at you the same way.
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I dont think posse is racist in and of itself, but based on these comments ots pretty clear phil has some preconceived notions about black folks. Like was already said, i doubt he uses the term in reference to a white player.
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When will people realize that something can be racial and not racist.
I think this falls into that category. There are undertones with the way the word was used.
I think this falls into that category. There are undertones with the way the word was used.
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I think it had a racial undertone, but I don't think Phil is racist. Think of it in the lense of how they categorized and viewed Allen Iverson when he had his people. It was referred to it as his "posse". Then think of how the NBA was uncomfortable with him despite his popularity. I think Phil was lazy in his wording and not really thinking about the work that Maverick Carter does.
