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Originally Posted by rocyaice
Not anymore. He no longer holds weight in music. And beefin' with everybody who does a song with Ja Rule has backfired on him. There was a time he could just beef with anyone and get away with it but his beefs have piled up to the point where he's went at dudes like Kanye and Wayne. FIf is almost irrelevant to music at this point.
Originally Posted by yungmatt
Originally Posted by rocyaice
Not anymore. He no longer holds weight in music. And beefin' with everybody who does a song with Ja Rule has backfired on him. There was a time he could just beef with anyone and get away with it but his beefs have piled up to the point where he's went at dudes like Kanye and Wayne. FIf is almost irrelevant to music at this point.
How? In other words, whos relevent in hip hop at this point?
I agree with you on those 2... Other than that I cant think of another rapper, maybe T.I.Originally Posted by rocyaice
Originally Posted by yungmatt
Originally Posted by rocyaice
Not anymore. He no longer holds weight in music. And beefin' with everybody who does a song with Ja Rule has backfired on him. There was a time he could just beef with anyone and get away with it but his beefs have piled up to the point where he's went at dudes like Kanye and Wayne. FIf is almost irrelevant to music at this point.
How? In other words, whos relevent in hip hop at this point?
Who's relevant? I'd consider Kanye West relevant. I'd consider Wayne relevant. I'd even consider Plies relevant. Now I know with Plies guys are gonna say "What? Fif murders him in sells" which is true but let's be honest. Anything Fif sells at this point is just leftovers from his Get Rich Or DIe Trying fanbase. From his "In Da Club" fanbase. He's Ja Rule status back when Fif started murdering him and Ja was still going platinum off the strength of his past fanbase.
Originally Posted by yungmatt
I agree with you on those 2... Other than that I cant think of another rapper, maybe T.I.Originally Posted by rocyaice
Originally Posted by yungmatt
Originally Posted by rocyaice
Not anymore. He no longer holds weight in music. And beefin' with everybody who does a song with Ja Rule has backfired on him. There was a time he could just beef with anyone and get away with it but his beefs have piled up to the point where he's went at dudes like Kanye and Wayne. FIf is almost irrelevant to music at this point.
How? In other words, whos relevent in hip hop at this point?
Who's relevant? I'd consider Kanye West relevant. I'd consider Wayne relevant. I'd even consider Plies relevant. Now I know with Plies guys are gonna say "What? Fif murders him in sells" which is true but let's be honest. Anything Fif sells at this point is just leftovers from his Get Rich Or DIe Trying fanbase. From his "In Da Club" fanbase. He's Ja Rule status back when Fif started murdering him and Ja was still going platinum off the strength of his past fanbase.
Wow hip hop is sad right now
Bully or not some ppl need to get called out. I give him props for calling out ppl a lot of other artists don't have the balls to.
And a bully wouldn't exist if the victim didn't allow that to happen to themselves.
Who said that? I dont listen to Wayne or KanyeOriginally Posted by rocyaice
Originally Posted by yungmatt
I agree with you on those 2... Other than that I cant think of another rapper, maybe T.I.Originally Posted by rocyaice
Originally Posted by yungmatt
Originally Posted by rocyaice
Not anymore. He no longer holds weight in music. And beefin' with everybody who does a song with Ja Rule has backfired on him. There was a time he could just beef with anyone and get away with it but his beefs have piled up to the point where he's went at dudes like Kanye and Wayne. FIf is almost irrelevant to music at this point.
How? In other words, whos relevent in hip hop at this point?
Who's relevant? I'd consider Kanye West relevant. I'd consider Wayne relevant. I'd even consider Plies relevant. Now I know with Plies guys are gonna say "What? Fif murders him in sells" which is true but let's be honest. Anything Fif sells at this point is just leftovers from his Get Rich Or DIe Trying fanbase. From his "In Da Club" fanbase. He's Ja Rule status back when Fif started murdering him and Ja was still going platinum off the strength of his past fanbase.
Wow hip hop is sad right now
Well I think your basing relevance on album sales and I think its more to it than that.
Originally Posted by yungmatt
Who said that? I dont listen to Wayne or KanyeOriginally Posted by rocyaice
Originally Posted by yungmatt
I agree with you on those 2... Other than that I cant think of another rapper, maybe T.I.Originally Posted by rocyaice
Originally Posted by yungmatt
Originally Posted by rocyaice
Not anymore. He no longer holds weight in music. And beefin' with everybody who does a song with Ja Rule has backfired on him. There was a time he could just beef with anyone and get away with it but his beefs have piled up to the point where he's went at dudes like Kanye and Wayne. FIf is almost irrelevant to music at this point.
How? In other words, whos relevent in hip hop at this point?
Who's relevant? I'd consider Kanye West relevant. I'd consider Wayne relevant. I'd even consider Plies relevant. Now I know with Plies guys are gonna say "What? Fif murders him in sells" which is true but let's be honest. Anything Fif sells at this point is just leftovers from his Get Rich Or DIe Trying fanbase. From his "In Da Club" fanbase. He's Ja Rule status back when Fif started murdering him and Ja was still going platinum off the strength of his past fanbase.
Wow hip hop is sad right now
Well I think your basing relevance on album sales and I think its more to it than that.
But yeah, they are the 2 most popular rappers right now.... Doesnt that=relevance?
Originally Posted by rocyaice
Originally Posted by yungmatt
Who said that? I dont listen to Wayne or KanyeOriginally Posted by rocyaice
Originally Posted by yungmatt
I agree with you on those 2... Other than that I cant think of another rapper, maybe T.I.Originally Posted by rocyaice
Originally Posted by yungmatt
Originally Posted by rocyaice
Not anymore. He no longer holds weight in music. And beefin' with everybody who does a song with Ja Rule has backfired on him. There was a time he could just beef with anyone and get away with it but his beefs have piled up to the point where he's went at dudes like Kanye and Wayne. FIf is almost irrelevant to music at this point.
How? In other words, whos relevent in hip hop at this point?
Who's relevant? I'd consider Kanye West relevant. I'd consider Wayne relevant. I'd even consider Plies relevant. Now I know with Plies guys are gonna say "What? Fif murders him in sells" which is true but let's be honest. Anything Fif sells at this point is just leftovers from his Get Rich Or DIe Trying fanbase. From his "In Da Club" fanbase. He's Ja Rule status back when Fif started murdering him and Ja was still going platinum off the strength of his past fanbase.
Wow hip hop is sad right now
Well I think your basing relevance on album sales and I think its more to it than that.
But yeah, they are the 2 most popular rappers right now.... Doesnt that=relevance?
Naw I don't think so anyway. For instance T-Pain's album will probably reach gold status yet he's probably one if not the most relevant artist in music right now. And I may to throw Flo Rida in there because for whatever reason every single this dude drops is #1. But I think there's more to relevance than album sales.
Nah I never said anything about sales.... I said Popularity. Just because your popular doesnt mean your gonna sell. Thats why Im saying popularity=relevance
So what's your argument for why 50's relevant and not Plies?
So what's your argument for why 50's relevant and not Plies?Originally Posted by rocyaice
Nah I never said anything about sales.... I said Popularity. Just because your popular doesnt mean your gonna sell. Thats why Im saying popularity=relevance
I like dudes to get called out as well. But there's a way to do it. Fif is callin' cats out not to benefit nobody but himself so he's not like some savior lol. I think before you call someone out though you should probably look in the mirror before you become a walking contradiction.
I guess it depends on who you ask. With a couple of exceptions everyone he's called out deserved it.
Originally Posted by yungmatt
So what's your argument for why 50's relevant and not Plies?Originally Posted by rocyaice
Nah I never said anything about sales.... I said Popularity. Just because your popular doesnt mean your gonna sell. Thats why Im saying popularity=relevance
Originally Posted by rocyaice
Originally Posted by yungmatt
So what's your argument for why 50's relevant and not Plies?Originally Posted by rocyaice
Nah I never said anything about sales.... I said Popularity. Just because your popular doesnt mean your gonna sell. Thats why Im saying popularity=relevance
50s relevance doesnt come from music anymore.... But hes still relevant. Theres still people checking for what hes gonna say or do next. Dude was on Howard Stern and did the Angie interview without her asking him a question about music at all. You cant name me another rapper to ever do that. Sadly, thats what hip hop is right now...Not music, Strictly entertainment.