Agreed, I passed on the playoff 8's from last year because my 2013's are still in great condition. I could careless about the red pull tab. Will skip out on these as well.
I just received mine today, they're LN4. Material seems like the 2020 Fire red 5's, a bit shiny but soft. Still A lot better than the 2012's. I'm just happy to get Military with NA. Now on to the BC 3's.