^^^^ no karl! dont give it in the washer!!
i already did it it with my pair of the same Icarus and now the swoosh is white!! all the red parts are are gone!
i post pics later.....
peace
thnks Sinner for the info on the Tour Challenges...
about the ATC III, i really doubt that those are wearable, air bubbles are little foggy. midsole is still hard but i´m sure not wearable though.