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Goat gave me a full refund on that wrong pair they sent me. Thank god, I absolutely did not want store credit.

Lebrons up until 16 worked pretty well for wide feet. The shoes got significantly more tapered and pointier in the toe box after that.

I need that toe box shape too smh.

For you guys with calf pain and tightness, try massaging the muscle belly something like the handle of a kettle bell. Put your calf on top of it, and move your foot up and down and side to side.

@grittyman my pair of EP queen conch came today and they are regular versions, made in Vietnam. The box doesn’t say EP and the style code is the wrong number as well. Currently going back and forth with goat customer service to return them. Edit: they approved my return. But will only give me...

lebrons personal pairs have a huge toe box compared to the retail ones.

Lmaooo this Vietnam vs china thing will be the death of my feet. I had to return 4/5 pairs of the 20s over that lol.

Thanks for the info. I got the abalone in 10 and 10.5 and both were too tight for me in the toe box. I’ve ordered the queen conch in EP (Asia wide version) but had to pay extra for it. It was like $115 before tax and fees. If the algae fit well as is for $80 then I will def get a pair.

Might just be the angle. But the toe box in the algae does look a bit rounder and not as pointed. The abalones look like a KD shoe in the front.

Wider you say? I might be back in.

Damn! Hopefully mine hold up. I’ve been playing in a pair of black lavas I bought a long time ago. But recently got Superman, multicolored and the Oreos gently used. The 16s fit me a lot more comfortably than the 20 and 21. The newer models are a lot more tapered and narrow, and it looks like...

I’ve been rocking my 16s on court a lot recently!

The design is getting pointier and pointier each year. Pretty soon gonna look like some women’s flats in the toe box lol.

It’s pretty tight on the midfoot and tapers a lot in the toe box. I paid the wide foot tax and got an EP version. The regular ones made my feet go numb after like 10 min

I think cushion is about the same, the heel Foam is a little stiffer so it doesn’t collapse as easily. Despite being a low top silhouette, your foot doesn’t actually sit that close to the ground in the 20 or 21. It’s definitely a little higher off the ground than a gt cut 1 or Kobe protro. But...

Ordered the EP queen conch off goat for $116 before fees. Hoping they are actually EP.

Gonna return my size 10 abalones today and try on the algae’s in person to see how the fit is. I always wear elite socks when I play, so maybe that’s why I tend to go half size up. Do you guys wear regular crews?

Played a full court game in Kobe’s and irritated my Achilles again on Tuesday, so I’m back in the lava 16s today. The extra heel cushioning helps a lot. Been about 10 weeks since my initial injury but only about 5 weeks of actively trying to rest and heal it. Looks like i might take another 2-3...

Ep debut today. Peep how wide they are on foot. I got these from id4shoes back when they came out. Trying to get some other EP off goat now for a good price.

Multi colors today! Love the dunk man logo and the lion head on the tongue.