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  1. obeahmyal7

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    @Belgium Thanks, bruh. That changes things a bit for me. Truth be told, I was hoping to say that Bernie’s position has evolved and that this clip was from a few years ago. But clearly, his stance on the white Obama voter makes clear his durable attempt to let white voters off the hook. He is...
  2. obeahmyal7

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    Dear my black brethren of NT, 1. Shouldn’t we ask when it was Bernie Sanders made this statement? I tried to figure it out but had no luck. 2. Should we be skeptical of the particular interests of a user who, on their Twitter home page, declares: “Kamala Harris is no longer running so I will...
  3. obeahmyal7

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    Look at all this damn solidarity. Respect to you both.
  4. obeahmyal7

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    @red mpls I understand what you were trying to do, but this is a miss for me, fam. And not because of the cheap identity politics that @Chopper hit you with. Take the abolition example. By the time of the British Abolition Act of 1833, the political agitation against slavery was a...
  5. obeahmyal7

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    This. And what appears as simple questions—how much is it going to cost and how are you going to pay for it—is, in fact, a clever political trap. My sense of that trap is this: I have had the most productive conversations around economic inequality by emphasizing the immorality and waste of...
  6. obeahmyal7

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    Come on, bro. Im not challenging your commitment to grassroots organizing, nor your response time. The conversation moves quickly and I’ve tried to be as accountable as I can to you and others who I’ve engaged. We’re busy people and the fact that you’ve actively shaped so many conversations on...
  7. obeahmyal7

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    I said conjecture because even after last night's response you didn’t demonstrate how Bernie’s support has stood static and/or diminished among non-white voters. In that sense, most of that you said—“he has not really improved on those numbers,” him “probably” increasing his support since the...
  8. obeahmyal7

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    Okay, I'll concede the point. I just want to add one important qualification. You originally made a claim about change over time (ie. the same-ness of Bernie's support among non-white voters). You then provided a poll that did not demonstrate this; it measured the extent to which Democratic...
  9. obeahmyal7

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    Good looks, @RustyShackleford . It took me some time to find a comparable poll in the lead up to the last Democratic primaries, but I found this Marist poll from September 2015 (less than a year before Clinton locked* up the nomination)...
  10. obeahmyal7

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    @RustyShackleford I hear you on almost all of this. But a question: On what grounds (evidence, really) can you claim that Sanders "has not expanded his base of non-white voters"? Like, how does one substantiate this declarative and absolutist claim that flattens the particularities of place...
  11. obeahmyal7

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    @SpittaJetLife What's your investment in this kind of silly commentary? Is there nothing else for you to do? Nothing to read? To study? No one else to build with to make sense of the stakes of death and destruction?
  12. obeahmyal7

    NYC to get a whole lot more interesting 2020 VOL. eliminating cash bail

    @GTA 809 There actually isn’t really a constitutional basis for using bail for the sake of “public safety.” The 8th amendment says that bail must not be excessive, and the point of bail is to ensure the defendant appears for trial. The emphasis on public safety begins during the 1980s war on...
  13. obeahmyal7

    NYC to get a whole lot more interesting 2020 VOL. eliminating cash bail

    Here’s a useful summary of the new law: https://www.vera.org/downloads/publications/new-york-new-york-2019-bail-reform-law-highlights.pdf Upshot: “The final bill that passed eliminated money bail and mandated release for 90 percent of all arrests statewide.”(8) Approach to bail reform: “The...
  14. obeahmyal7

    NYC to get a whole lot more interesting 2020 VOL. eliminating cash bail

    I don’t even know why I do it. :lol:
  15. obeahmyal7

    NYC to get a whole lot more interesting 2020 VOL. eliminating cash bail

    @ninjahood once described his posting history as an attempt to keep the General page fresh. But I think there’s something else that ties his threads together. I’ve often wondered if you get paid for the kind of race-baiting, anti-science, fear propaganda. I can’t call it. But I do get the...
  16. obeahmyal7

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    @fargin care to share a link/citation of Bernie Bros calling Warren Hilary 2.0? I haven't seen this comparison made. What I've seen instead are attempts by the Jacobin crowd to beat back Warren's late summer momentum. IMO, the critiques have been mostly moronic, if understandable. One of the...
  17. obeahmyal7

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    Respect, @RustyShackleford Let me also clarify that I wasn't trying to conflate what you and Belgium said with what Fargin offered. And your response is exactly what I was hoping for in asking for a bit more analysis instead of flippant remarks. When it comes to opinion polls, I want to have...
  18. obeahmyal7

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    Yeah? Well make the argument, then. Don't just spout off reckless comparisons only to hide behind your opinion when pushed. To highlight a few examples, Corbyn and Labour have proposed: Extending access to public services without regressive taxation A universal basic income Expanding the...
  19. obeahmyal7

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    A very poor metaphor, Rex. On the Bolivia question, I simply would like to ask: where are some of you getting your sources? And how have you come to speak with such confidence, such conviction about the events, intentions, and political dynamics? My feeling is that this is not about what...
  20. obeahmyal7

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    In case you’re interested in a smart, and thoughtful take on why you might rightly call the political takeover in Bolivia a “coup.” https://nacla.org/news/2019/11/13/bolivia-path-camacho-interview-morales
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