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Struck out with the bred's yesterday because I was too impatient to wait on the fnl website and kept refreshing it. Slept late today and ordered on fnl at 9 25 and surprisingly got through after 5 min and ordered at 10.5 even though I'm a 10. Good thing I have alot of money on my checking...

Abovedahype thanks for the heads up on the packers shoes conductor hi,shop nice kicks was first spot I saw for less than retail,plus it was $9 off for some reason so it came out to $81 shipped,not bad at all for saving $140 pair